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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:07:04 -0400
From: Sam Ruby <rubys@apache.org>
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Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project
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Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> 
> Sam Ruby wrote:
> 
>> Sander Striker wrote:
>>
>>>> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:noel@devtech.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:11 AM
>>>
>>>> My understanding from discussion with Sam and Ken was that creation 
>>>> of a new
>>>> TLP or migrating to an existing one would be an exit, not entry, issue.
>>>
>>> That's correct.  However, it wouldn't make much sense to let a 
>>> project enter when there is no notion of where it would exit too.
>>
>> Section 6 of the 
>> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheDirectoryProject 
>> describes a clear "notion of where it would exit too".
>>
>> I don't believe that it is a reasonable expectation to have the board 
>> give prior approval of a new TLP as a prerequisite for entrance into 
>> incubation.
> 
> I agree with Sam. It makes no sense that a new TLP is created for a 
> project that may even fail incubation.
> 
> BTW, we also have AltRMI and FTPServer in Incubation and yet no exit 
> defined.
> 
>> I have similar reservations about prior approval by target projects as 
>> a prerequisite for acceptance by the incubator.
> 
> It is not, in fact.
> 
> The rule is simple: a PMC has to vote that it wants that project.
> 
> The PMC can be the Incubator itself, or another PMC. In the latter case, 
> the Incubator PMC does not need to vote, and operates to help the other 
> PMC in incubation.
> 
> In this case, the vote is needed by the Incubator PMC as this project 
> aims to a new PMC.

If we are clarifying rules, we should account for board initiated 
projects, like Geronimo.

- Sam Ruby


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