From general-return-1942-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon Sep 22 02:35:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 21722 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2003 02:35:35 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Sep 2003 02:35:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 377 invoked by uid 500); 22 Sep 2003 02:35:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 301 invoked by uid 500); 22 Sep 2003 02:35:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 281 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2003 02:35:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com) (24.93.67.83) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Sep 2003 02:35:14 -0000 Received: from noel770 (cae88-16-024.sc.rr.com [24.88.16.24]) by ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with SMTP id h8M2VXpM019951 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:31:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Noel J. Bergman" To: Subject: RE: roles and responsibilities Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:37:16 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <002901c380ab$69dfbf60$090110ac@trunk.joshuatree.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Berin, > > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings > > Had a read. Great stuff :>. At a quick glance, I see some things to change. - there has not been stated a minimum community size to start - it has been explicitly stated that a project does NOT need to have its exit destination known at entry time. Clearly a project will not leave the Incubator without meeting those criteria, but they are not required entry criteria. > What is the break up of responsibility between the Incubator > PMC and the Sponsoring PMC in cases such as XMLBeans. In > these cases, the Sponsoring PMC seems to take on much of the > role that is discussed in the document. In my view, the Sponsoring PMC *should* take an active role. But the Incubator PMC is still responsible for making sure that all of criteria are met before letting it into the ASF proper. Looking over the document, the Sponsoring PMC would be in the role of Sponsor, and is invested in project and Community building, whereas the Incubator PMC is still acting as the gatekeeper, ensuring the legal protection of the ASF. Whatever tasks the Sponsor overtakes to help shephard the project, which can reduce the workload on the Incubator PMC, the Incubator PMC still has that final responsibility. --- Noel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org