From general-return-1905-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Sun Sep 21 11:51:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 89661 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2003 11:50:59 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Sep 2003 11:50:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 96489 invoked by uid 500); 21 Sep 2003 11:50:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96349 invoked by uid 500); 21 Sep 2003 11:50:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96333 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2003 11:50:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Boron.MeepZor.Com) (204.146.167.214) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Sep 2003 11:50:55 -0000 Received: from Golux.Com (dsl093-240-231.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.240.231]) (authenticated) by Boron.MeepZor.Com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8LBoth31473; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:50:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F6D907E.3040209@Golux.Com> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:50:22 -0400 From: Rodent of Unusual Size Organization: The Apache Software Foundation User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: ASF member role - accountable to whom References: <20030921193150.B510.TETSUYA@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <20030921193150.B510.TETSUYA@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > In such situation, (and I am embodin' cross-project participation) > how can you measure *my* participation in the apache.org activities? > > ... This is really *what* I've wanted to know, because half of the > *ASF members* are parcitipating "only" http.apache.org mailing lists, > AFAICS. is your question 'how is merit measured'? if so, it's a good question; if not, i'm unclear (again!) on what point you're trying to make. as a couple of examples of why we frown on statistics: well, you've already seen why it would be unfair to regard roy lightly just because he doesn't post a lot. and on other occasions, people who have changed the copyright year embedded in the code can be (and mistakenly have been) regarded as being very active on the basis of the statistics, even if that's the only contribution they've made recently. so much for using statistics on quantity to measure merit. and quality is highly subjective and not statistically measurable. ergo, no stats. :-) -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org