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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <nicola...@apache.org>
Subject Re: roles and responsibilities
Date Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:59:11 GMT
Ted Leung wrote:

> On 9/22/2003 4:50 PM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> 
>>> From: Rodent of Unusual Size   
>>> what's the role of the incubator pmc in this?  at the least, it's a set
>>> of passionate asf people who are essentially in agreement about what
>>> makes something a genuine 'apache'-style project, who review the
>>> reports of the mentors and make suggestions and eventually vote on
>>> whether the podling has become self-sustaining in the 'apache way' of
>>> doing things.  in a more perfect world, the pmc members will involve
>>> themselve more deeply than that in at least some of the podlings, so
>>> they can observe at first hand, possibly providing guidance at first
>>> hand (though preferably through the mentor).
>>>
>>
>> Is it worth setting up some regular reviews of
>> incubating projects?  Once every three months or
>> the like?  If there is a requirement to review
>> reports, then maybe that should be formalised?
>>
>  From the podlings point of view, I think that this would be good.  
> Actually from any point of view.

+1

>>> what's the role of a 'sponsoring pmc' in this?  solely as an observer
>>> until the podling graduates.
>>
>> Not sure I'm comfortable with this.  I'm not a
>> very good Apache project if all I do is site
>> around and observe.  If I say "I want this" then
>> I should have some form of responsibility (and I
>> agree this needs to be put in the form of an
>> individual) to the outcome.  Not just as an
>> observer.
>
> I must have missed this the first time around.  I agree with Berin 
> here.  Before the incubator, all the responsibility would have been on 
> the sponsoring PMC.   I think that sponsoring PMCs need to take an 
> active role in helping projects move through the incubator.

I agree. If a PMC wants a project, he cannot simply have it attached as 
a "prize". It's the same issue with a walk-away sponsors. Sponsors must 
give something, else they don't "sponsor".

-- 
Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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