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From "Sander Striker" <>
Subject RE: ASF member role - accountable to whom
Date Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:21:08 GMT
> From: Tetsuya Kitahata []
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:04 AM

> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:25:35 -0400
> Rodent of Unusual Size <Ken.Coar@Golux.Com> wrote:
> > the foundation *as a whole*.  presumably you care about the welfare
> > of japan, but don't know what's going in in kita-kyushu unless
> > you live there.  that doesn't invalidate your concern about the
> > country overall, nor make you non-japanese.
> Nice analogy :) .. Well, as a japanese, of course I am
> caring for what is happening in Kita-Kyushu City, Sapporo City,
> Nagoya City, as well as the capital of Japan, Tokyo.
> People in Kita-Kyushu are our Amigos. No prejudice.

So you know about every little village in Japan aswell?

> We are often watching Television, Newspaper, Internet.
> .. Newspaper .. very nice.
> I am trying to gather the news from various projects
> in the foundation, including httpd/apr, etc. as newsletter
> the other day.
> In the Issue #1, I could not hear any words from the guys
> in httpd (Only, Sander made a slight change .. WebServer -> Server :),
> so I had to write by myself.

You didn't need to write anything, you wanted to write something.

The reason the HTTP Server crowd didn't submit a story is probably
simple: they are focussing on other things.  Furthermore, the
HTTP Server gets coverage via

> In this situation, can we say, 
> "The ASF members are caring for the whole benefits of foundation"??

I don't see how not contributing to a new initiative in the form
of a newsletter is equivalent to not caring for the foundation.
I find that implication quite insulting.

> "The Apache Newsletter" is a good community process and gives
> the whole benefits to the foundation. Why did not they 
> cooperate with me? (Thanx >> those who cooperated with me)
> I'd like to say, "Those who would write articles in the newsletter
> draft, are worthy to become members, because they really care
> for the foundation as a whole".

Bah.  This really gives me a bad taste in my mouth.  Without the
efforts people put in, there would be _no_ news to report.

Also, it's the members which nominate new members.  Having someone
decide on worthiness out of the blue doesn't sound right.

> Also, I'll give an announcement
> (=call) at members@ not community@ in the next time.

Please no.  That would probably be the only list I was on that
you had missed in your prodding for contributions to the newsletter.
Believe me, if there were people with reporting aspirations within
the ASF, you've reached them.  I personally think there are not
that many around.  Not surprising, since when you look at projects,
the majority does not like writing documentation either.


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