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From "Cliff Schmidt" <cl...@bea.com>
Subject RE: Exit Criteria
Date Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:54:15 GMT
On Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:26 PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> 
>  >Cliff Schmidt wrote:
>  >
>>> while they are in the Incubator, they must ensure these releases are
>>> clearly labeled as being incubator releases, which are not fully
>>> endorsed by the ASF
>> 
>>> Does this fit with what you had in mind?
>> 
>> Works for me.  But you should make sure that it works for the
>> Incubator PMC. As I understand from Nicola Ken's and Ken's
>> responses, they thought it looked good.
> 
> I put up a Wiki page for it here:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorReleaseManagement

>From the Wiki page:

"This means that Projects under Incubation cannot release, and cannot do 
it using the Apache mirroring rules. 

It is possible though that these Projects make some snapshots available, 
that do not have all the implications of the releases but have a similar 
use."

The first sentence seems a little strong to me.  I'm hoping that by 
clearly marking a binary as being incubated, and therefore not ASF-
endorsed, we're covering the important aspect here.  I'm just concerned
that 1) projects will be confused about whether they can create a build
that they call 1.0 or 2.0 and link it from their front page, and 2) that
we are unnecessarily restricting a project from using mirroring, which
has benefits during incubation, and which should be trained during this
phase.

The second sentence is unclear to me.  What implications do snapshot
releases not have, other than the ASF endorsement?  I just want to make
sure it is clear if there are other restrictions.

Cliff




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