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From: Davanum Srinivas <dims@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: request to accept new project: wsrp4j:K@N@!:
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Date: 2 Aug 2003 16:34:06 -0500

Richard,

Bottom-line: 
#1 - The code for wsrp4j that we will get will have everything needed for WSRP4J to work in a
Tomcat/Servlet Container...Right? 
#2 - Later the JSR 168 reference impl may/can be extracted into a separate project...Right?

Thanks,
dims

--- Richard Jacob <richard.jacob@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> first off all sorry if I break the thread, but I subscibed a few minutes
> ago.
> Let me try to bring light into the wsrp4j proposal confusion:
> We intend to donate two projects: pluto and wsrp4j (formally named charon).
> pluto is the JSR168 (Portlet spec) reference implementation, wrsp4j is the
> implementation of the WSRP (Web Services for Remote Portlets)
> specification.
> The proposals have been sent to the list 01/23/03.
> See:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=104316106830341&w=2 and
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=104328329422013&w=2
> 
> Initially the intent was to provide them both to the jakarta project.
> When talking to Sam about the donation he pointed out that the WS project
> might fit better
> for WSRP4J. The wiki proposal hasn't been changed yet to reflect this.
> We also proposed to rename charon to wsrp4j on the CharonProposal talk page
> and since
> there were no objections we did it. However we can talk about it to fit the
> community desires.
> 
> On the dependencies:
> WSRP4J uses the pluto JARs as well as the jakarta-jetspeed-2 project plans
> to do.
> jakarta-jetspeed-2 is not the ref. impl. as stated in previous mails in
> this thread - they depend
> on them.
> Because of administrative issues pluto needs to come later, and since we
> would like to
> start the WSRP4J project as early as possible, we planned to donate WSRP4J
> with the
> pluto JARs included.
> Please note: The source code for these JARs will be donated to the pluto
> project anyway once
> it is accepted. Current plan is to start the pluto project some weeks
> later.
> We are currently talking to our lawyers to provide an appropriate licence
> along with the JARs.
> The key point is that we need to "charecterize" the JARs as an
> implementation of a non-final
> technology (because the JSR168 is not final yet), delivered as-is, for
> evaluation,
> blahblah.
> Since we are no lawyers we have to let them check the conditions first.
> We hope to resolve this issue asap.
> As you might know jetspeed-2 is already waiting for the JARs.
> btw. the Pluto JARs contain already packages named org.apache.pluto.*. This
> is because
> we intended to start the projects at the same time - but...you know.
> Do you see a problem here?
> 
> I hope I was able to clarify some issues.
> 
> Cheers,
> Richard.
> 
> 
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