From general-return-1206-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed Aug 06 04:59:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 31101 invoked by uid 500); 6 Aug 2003 04:59:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 30991 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2003 04:59:31 -0000 Date: 6 Aug 2003 07:02:50 +0200 Message-ID: <018201c35bd7$fc534e00$a501a8c0@computer2> From: "Andreas Kuckartz" To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Marc Fleury reacts (Fw: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N FYI. Other strange things are happening as well such as blocked JBoss cvs accounts and blocked mails to JBoss mailing lists. This is really becoming ugly. Cheers, Andreas ----- Original Message ----- From: "marc fleury" To: Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:33 AM Subject: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news [...] > Apache J2EE effort. > First a bit of history. I offered EJBoss when it was 4 month old to > Apache. The guys at Jakarta vote OK unanimously and their vote was > overridden by Brian Behlendorf. The reason from behlendorf was that they > 'were not the dust bin of open source projects'. I heard the Apache > crowd got offended for me calling them "a bunch of fat ladies drinking > tea" at a later date when they were running around telling us how to run > our project. We had reports that this was the non-official reason for > this "challenge". Challenge accepted. More seriously as we overtake > them in corporate penetration and business model, I guess they are > finally looking beyond the HTTPD C codebase and imitation is the > sincerest form of flattery. > > We are the real thing, all we have so far is talk and announcement, > announcements are a dime a dozen. Apache code on this project has yet > to be released and then production reached and then maturity bla bla > bla. I have little comment on the project except to say that JBOSS IS > NOT A PART OF IT. In a misleading announcement Apache chairman's Greg > Stein implied JBoss was participating and that JBOSS CODE WAS PART OF > THE PROJECT. No current JBoss developers are participating in the > Apache J2EE project and since JBoss is LGPL only full copyright holders > can offer JBoss code under other licenses. Bottom line? JBoss can't be > forked by apache. As our customers know, we are a business, a serious > one and we seriously believe in and defend "professional open source". > That includes legal protection of IP. Make no mistakes, JBoss will > AGGRESIVELY defend its copyright and LGPL license. [...] > Marcf > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Marc Fleury, Ph.D > Founder > JBoss Group, LLC > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > JBoss-Development mailing list > JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org