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From "Vic Cekvenich" <maill...@baseBeans.com>
Subject Re: Marc Fleury reacts (Fw: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news)
Date Thu, 07 Aug 2003 13:33:13 GMT
Hey, these guys have open source too:
http://jcorporate.com/html/products/productsfm.html

Lets raid them next, fork the code and put in ASF!?
Any other projects?

Sad.

.V


"James Hicks" <jrhicks@txucom.net> wrote in message
news:004d01c35bda$e4ba2b30$ca9146cf@stimpy...
> Its natural.  He sees the future of JBoss, and its not looking good.
> Once the ASF has a solid J2EE product, JBoss will not look so
> attractive.  Especially if Geronimo gets certified.
>
> Bottom line, would you rather contribute to a project that is led by an
> arrogant wanna be dictator or by a community of the world's brightest?
> I choose the latter.
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Kuckartz [mailto:A.Kuckartz@ping.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:03 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Marc Fleury reacts (Fw: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news)
>
>
> FYI.
>
> Other strange things are happening as well such as blocked JBoss cvs
> accounts and blocked mails to JBoss mailing lists. This is really
> becoming ugly.
>
> Cheers,
> Andreas
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "marc fleury" <marc.fleury@jboss.org>
> To: <jboss-news@jboss.org>
> Cc: <jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net>;
> <jboss-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:33 AM
> Subject: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news
>
>
> [...]
>
> > Apache J2EE effort.
> > First a bit of history.  I offered EJBoss when it was 4 month old to
> > Apache.  The guys at Jakarta vote OK unanimously and their vote was
> > overridden by Brian Behlendorf. The reason from behlendorf was that
> > they 'were not the dust bin of open source projects'. I heard the
> > Apache crowd got offended for me calling them "a bunch of fat ladies
> > drinking tea" at a later date when they were running around telling us
>
> > how to run our project.  We had reports that this was the non-official
>
> > reason for this "challenge".  Challenge accepted.  More seriously as
> > we overtake them in corporate penetration and business model, I guess
> > they are finally looking beyond the HTTPD C codebase and imitation is
> > the sincerest form of flattery.
> >
> > We are the real thing, all we have so far is talk and announcement,
> > announcements are a dime a dozen.  Apache code on this project has yet
>
> > to be released and then production reached and then maturity bla bla
> > bla.  I have little comment on the project except to say that JBOSS IS
>
> > NOT A PART OF IT. In a misleading announcement Apache chairman's Greg
> > Stein implied JBoss was participating and that JBOSS CODE WAS PART OF
> > THE PROJECT.  No current JBoss developers are participating in the
> > Apache J2EE project and since JBoss is LGPL only full copyright
> > holders can offer JBoss code under other licenses.  Bottom line? JBoss
> can't be
> > forked by apache.   As our customers know, we are a business, a
> serious
> > one and we seriously believe in and defend "professional open source".
>
> > That includes legal protection of IP.  Make no mistakes, JBoss will
> > AGGRESIVELY defend its copyright and LGPL license.
>
> [...]
>
> > Marcf
> >
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Marc Fleury, Ph.D
> > Founder
> > JBoss Group, LLC
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
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