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From Davanum Srinivas <d...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: request to accept new project: wsrp4j:K@N@!:
Date Sat, 02 Aug 2003 21:28:34 GMT
#1 - "-1 on the apparent process on how this "arrived"". Where EXACTLY is this process
documented???????? ("how/when should someone send a note to incubator about a project to get
the
ball rolling") 

#2 - I was a bit surprised that this note about Charon to incubator did not come from either
me or
sam. 

#3 - jetspeed-2 is where to pluto jar(s) will reside. See note from David Sean Taylor
("http://www.mail-archive.com/jetspeed-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg09175.html"). We already
have an
Apache project dependent on it.

Thanks,
dims

--- Greg Stein <gstein@lyra.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 07:06:13PM -0400, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> > Ted Leung wrote:
> > > I'm unclear as to the project destination here.  Your message says its 
> > > WS and the proposal
> > > says Jakarta.   I just looked and couldn't find it. I also couldn't find 
> > > it in general@jakarta.
> 
> And I don't recall seeing it on pmc@jakarta.apache.org.
> 
> Hunh. I just searched the pmc@jakarta archives for "wsrp4j" (case
> insensitive). I found ZERO references to wsrp4j in the May/June/July
> timeframe.
> 
> Also searched the pmc@ws.apache.org archive since it was started, and I
> found ZERO references.
> 
> So how exactly was this projected "accepted"? I see zero discussion before
> Ken's post to general@incubator. That seems *very* inappropriate.
> 
> > > As long has voted to accept it, I've no problem.  It's just that I'm on 
> > > the WS PMC and I can't
> > > remember the vote for this.
> > 
> > sam, davinum?  in the conference with sam and richard jacob
> > yesterday, ws was clearly identified, and sam commented that
> > although jakarta had been the original destination it had
> > been decided that ws was much more appropriate.  i guess no-one
> > updated the wiki.
> 
> Fair enough, but Sam isn't the decision maker on whether something gets
> accepted, and not necessarily on where it goes. Especially when there has
> been zero discussion.
> 
> > >>the codebase is dependent upon another which is *not* yet open,
> > >>but which will be licensed appropriately and which is intended
> > >>to follow the first one as a donation.  for internal ibm reasons
> > >>to which i'm not privy, this must be a rear-drive cart.  however,
> > >>since the horse will have safe licensing, i don't anticipate a
> > >>problem.
> > >
> > > I object to this.  I would prefer to see both donated together, 
> > > especially if one cannot work
> > > without the other.
> > 
> > can't be done.  has to be this way.  not our choice.
> 
> I'm not too concerned about having the dependent code *at* the ASF, since we
> usually have dependencies on external things. However, I *do* think a
> necessary precondition is that it becomes available with an ASL-compatible
> license before the incubation is accepted.
> 
> > >>please reply asap if you have objections; if i don't see any by
> > >>monday, i'll assume a lazy consensus and get the ball rolling.
> > 
> > btw, this is primarily for the pmc, since it's the pmc's vote/decision
> > about acceptance that determines it.  non-pmc opinions are
> > eagerly solicited, but non-binding and advisory..
> 
> My binding vote is -1 until we see the dependency made available. After
> that, +1 assuming that the WS PMC votes to actually accept the thing
> post-incubation.
> 
> I'm also a -1 on the apparent process on how this "arrived" at the
> Incubator.
> 
> Cheers,
> -g
> 
> -- 
> Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/


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Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/

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