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From Greg Wilkins <>
Subject Re: Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?
Date Wed, 06 Aug 2003 22:50:17 GMT

Let me firstly say that JBoss is a quality open source project and I
continue to use, support and recommend it to my clients.

However, open process is at least as important as open software.

The high attrition rate of significant contributors to the JBoss project
over the years indicates that at least for some there is a problem, that
hopefully the open process of apache will address.


Jack Frosch wrote:
> Open source projects typically solve a problem not addressed by 
> commercial vendors, even if the problem is just the price being charged 
> for the commercial solution. Yet we already have a very popular, 
> open-source J2EE container in JBoss.
> Why must people's egos get in the way of common sense in our business as 
> in so many?  Like Microsoft, it appears that just wants to 
> control everything - and that's just such a lamentable motivation, 
> whether held by Microsoft or
> How about swallowing your pride, giving up your aspirations of 
> controlling every popular, open-source, significant project, and just 
> embrace JBoss with support, MBean development, etc.?
> Frankly, I'm just dismayed by the Geronimo project and the pettiness of 
> the egos driving
> Jack Frosch
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