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From James Strachan <james_strac...@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject Re: Marc Fleury reacts (Fw: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news)
Date Thu, 07 Aug 2003 13:36:40 GMT
Please read the website & FAQ rather than spread FUD...

http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheJ2EE/FAQ


On Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 02:33  pm, Vic Cekvenich wrote:

> Hey, these guys have open source too:
> http://jcorporate.com/html/products/productsfm.html
>
> Lets raid them next, fork the code and put in ASF!?
> Any other projects?
>
> Sad.
>
> .V
>
>
> "James Hicks" <jrhicks@txucom.net> wrote in message
> news:004d01c35bda$e4ba2b30$ca9146cf@stimpy...
>> Its natural.  He sees the future of JBoss, and its not looking good.
>> Once the ASF has a solid J2EE product, JBoss will not look so
>> attractive.  Especially if Geronimo gets certified.
>>
>> Bottom line, would you rather contribute to a project that is led by  
>> an
>> arrogant wanna be dictator or by a community of the world's brightest?
>> I choose the latter.
>>
>> James
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andreas Kuckartz [mailto:A.Kuckartz@ping.de]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:03 AM
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Marc Fleury reacts (Fw: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news)
>>
>>
>> FYI.
>>
>> Other strange things are happening as well such as blocked JBoss cvs
>> accounts and blocked mails to JBoss mailing lists. This is really
>> becoming ugly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andreas
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "marc fleury" <marc.fleury@jboss.org>
>> To: <jboss-news@jboss.org>
>> Cc: <jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net>;
>> <jboss-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:33 AM
>> Subject: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news
>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Apache J2EE effort.
>>> First a bit of history.  I offered EJBoss when it was 4 month old to
>>> Apache.  The guys at Jakarta vote OK unanimously and their vote was
>>> overridden by Brian Behlendorf. The reason from behlendorf was that
>>> they 'were not the dust bin of open source projects'. I heard the
>>> Apache crowd got offended for me calling them "a bunch of fat ladies
>>> drinking tea" at a later date when they were running around telling  
>>> us
>>
>>> how to run our project.  We had reports that this was the  
>>> non-official
>>
>>> reason for this "challenge".  Challenge accepted.  More seriously as
>>> we overtake them in corporate penetration and business model, I guess
>>> they are finally looking beyond the HTTPD C codebase and imitation is
>>> the sincerest form of flattery.
>>>
>>> We are the real thing, all we have so far is talk and announcement,
>>> announcements are a dime a dozen.  Apache code on this project has  
>>> yet
>>
>>> to be released and then production reached and then maturity bla bla
>>> bla.  I have little comment on the project except to say that JBOSS  
>>> IS
>>
>>> NOT A PART OF IT. In a misleading announcement Apache chairman's Greg
>>> Stein implied JBoss was participating and that JBOSS CODE WAS PART OF
>>> THE PROJECT.  No current JBoss developers are participating in the
>>> Apache J2EE project and since JBoss is LGPL only full copyright
>>> holders can offer JBoss code under other licenses.  Bottom line?  
>>> JBoss
>> can't be
>>> forked by apache.   As our customers know, we are a business, a
>> serious
>>> one and we seriously believe in and defend "professional open  
>>> source".
>>
>>> That includes legal protection of IP.  Make no mistakes, JBoss will
>>> AGGRESIVELY defend its copyright and LGPL license.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Marcf
>>>
>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Marc Fleury, Ph.D
>>> Founder
>>> JBoss Group, LLC
>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
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