Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 78819 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2003 18:59:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 78695 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 18:59:43 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6410.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Issues with XMLBeans proposal Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:59:12 -0700 Message-ID: <7A157FEACF50074588EEC9497CA2B5EF831C64@seex01.beanw.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Issues with XMLBeans proposal Thread-Index: AcNBk/hpBYt5za4vSi+hjza73z0y+wAANDpQ From: "Cliff Schmidt" To: , "Neil Graham" Cc: , "Jakarta General List" X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sorry about that -- looks like that mail didn't make it out of my = outbox. I'll resend right now to all three lists. =20 Cliff On Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:50 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > +1 >=20 > On 7/3/03 2:26 PM, "Neil Graham" wrote: >=20 >> Hi Cliff, >>=20 >> I think the copy list of your note to Howard must have been a good >> bit narrower than the copy list of this response to Andy. :) Any >> chance you could enlighten those of us in this broader group who are >> interested as to the technical points on which XMLBeans differs from >> other technologies?=20 >>=20 >> Cheers! >> Neil >> Neil Graham >> XML Parser Development >> IBM Toronto Lab >> Phone: 905-413-3519, T/L 969-3519 >> E-mail: neilg@ca.ibm.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> ---------+----------------------------> >>> | "Cliff Schmidt" | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | 07/03/2003 02:22 | >>> | PM | >>> | Please respond to| >>> | general | >>> | | >>> ---------+----------------------------> >>> = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------| >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> To: "Jakarta General List" , >> , =20 >> |=20 >>> cc: >>>=20 >>> Subject: RE: Issues with XMLBeans proposal >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------| >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:01 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: >>=20 >>> So what in this ensures this will be a community-developed project >>> and not just an Apache branded extension of BEA? I really would >>> like to see you guys involved in Apache, but not in a way the >>> compromises Apache. There is a challenge that limits the >>> excitement of others in that there are so many other similar >>> projects that do exactly the same thing. Perhaps it would benefit >>> the effort if you explained why we needed another one. That has no >>> bearing on its suitability but it might make people more interested >>> who wouldn't be otherwise.=20 >>=20 >> As Santiago points out, the veto rule provides some protection over >> pure majority, but I don't think anyone here wants to rely on that. >> All I can tell you is that BEA is more concerned about establishing a >> long term relationship with Apache and other open source communities >> than controlling the future development of XMLBeans. From our >> perspective, we have much more to gain by proving ourselves as >> credible and positive contributors to open source, especially since >> we would like XMLBeans to be the first in a series of open source >> contributions. If the BEA committers attempt to make decisions >> against the wishes of the rest of the community and are viewed >> negatively for doing so, we have absolutely failed in what we set >> out to do.=20 >>=20 >> See my response to Howard's questions for more on how the project >> differs technically from other open source projects. >>=20 >> Cliff >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> In case of troubles, e-mail: webmaster@xml.apache.org >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@xml.apache.org >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> In case of troubles, e-mail: webmaster@xml.apache.org >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@xml.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org