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From: Xserty <xserty@libero.it>
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Date: 13 May 2003 16:58:52 +0100

Hello,
	we are confident that the project is valid, but unfortunately it lacks
of some primary requirements of the ASF.
Mainly it's type: it's not a server-side framework, but a
WebService-Workflow Application, and then there is no official community
other than the company's developers.
So, prior to make a proposal, our next step will be to create a active
community outside the company itself and hope that the server-side
framework is not a limitation.
Thanks for pointing me to the right direction.
All the best,
	Stefano


On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 12:24, Paul Hammant wrote:
> Stefano,
> 
>   http://incubator.apache.org/process.html
>   http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html
> 
> The second page has some thought provoking aspects.  In essense, Apache must be convinced that
> your not bringing code here for fame, or because dev has stopped in the your company. Moveover, an
> @apache email address should not be a motivator, and it should overlap with Apache's goals
> including leveraging existing sub-projects if it can.  Development must be pledged to continue. To
> achieve that you should have a few committed developers, who don't necessarily rely on a salary to
> remain active on that commitment.  Some amount of charm is required, especially to sub-projects
> that you hope to leverage. An existing presence in one or more Apache mail-lists really helps, as
> does a prior understanding of the Apache way.
> 
> Some of that is subjective, as I'm sure will be pointed out.
> 
> Look in the archives of the general@jakarta list for the "POI" project and its entry in Jakarta.
> It is very good examples of the trials and ultimate success of the applicants.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> - Paul

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