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From "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoli...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Date Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:14:25 GMT
Ben,

You're being obstructionist.  Lets not make this into a big political 
thing.  Its important that Apache have a mass mailing solution and its 
great community project.  We're even going to advance the state of 
development through extensive use of UML, implement the CMM and utilize 
the grand System Development Lifecycle methodology.  This is going to be 
big!

I'd like to see more support from you on this!

-Andy

cc: community (see SuperXMailer proposal: 
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.general/4289 )

PS: eyebrowse archive of general@jakarta is busted again. bah

Ben Hyde wrote:

> No way, not until the board clarifies project's reply-to header policy.
>
> On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:35 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
>> GREAT!  Add yourself as a committer to the wiki page!  I'm glad there 
>> is so much community enthusiasm for this!
>>
>> Ben Hyde wrote:
>>
>>> +1, I'm seriously considering doing an Ada port!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:03 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the 
>>>> incubator.  I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit 
>>>> approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the 
>>>> incubator.  I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks 
>>>> will see a true value in this project and its active community.  
>>>> Unfortunately the source repository and mail archives are down at 
>>>> the moment, but I'm sure they'll be restored soon.
>>>>
>>>> Note that there is also something strange with the bug database.  
>>>> We now have email deobfuscation which defeats schemes like 
>>>> acoliverNOSPAM@NOSPAMapache.org and such, as well as acoliver at 
>>>> apache dot org.  No worries, the mail will be harvested and get 
>>>> through!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your consideration.  Please feel free to submit your 
>>>> vote in advance.
>>>>
>>>> -Andy
>>>>
>>>> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SuperXMailerProposal
>>>>
>>>> [0] rationale
>>>>
>>>> SuperXMailer, the project hosted at 
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/ is a tool for 
>>>> harvesting email addresses from web pages and mail lists, storing 
>>>> them in any database or XML file, and sending them email addresses. 
>>>> It features opt-out lists, email verification and much more.
>>>>
>>>> The project is the creation of a number of Apache committers and is 
>>>> run as a meritocratic community-developed project.
>>>>
>>>> Presently the CVS repository and mail lists are down (as of 3/30), 
>>>> but we have opened up a support request and will have it up again 
>>>> soon.
>>>> [0.1] criteria
>>>>
>>>> Meritocracy:  SuperXMailer follows the Apache meritocracy rules, 
>>>> with a core of committers including ASF members.
>>>>
>>>> Community:  SuperXMailer has a modest, but very active community.  
>>>> Its users are very pleased with its performance and capture 
>>>> capabillities.
>>>>
>>>> Core Developers.  SuperXMailer has an active and dedicated team of 
>>>> committers.  The project was founded by Andrew C. Oliver, who is 
>>>> extremely dedicated to SuperXMailer and authored the majority of 
>>>> the codebase.  Nicola Ken Barrozzi and Glen Stampoultzis are 
>>>> frequent contributors of components and bug fixes as well as some 
>>>> significant extensions.  Sam Ruby has offered to provide Web 
>>>> Services extensions via Axis.
>>>>
>>>> Alignment:  SuperXMailer makes use of Lucene, POI, Struts, 
>>>> Velocity, Turbine, Xerces, Tomcat and Xalan.
>>>>
>>>> Scope:  SuperXMailer is entirely a server-side application, well 
>>>> aligned with the overall goals of the Jakarta project.
>>>>
>>>> [1] scope of subproject
>>>>
>>>> The project shall create and maintain packages written in the Java 
>>>> programming language constituting the framework, management tools, 
>>>> search/database and mailer, a standard library of additional 
>>>> components, documentation, a web site and additional examples.
>>>>
>>>> [2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be 
>>>> populated
>>>>
>>>> The project currently resides on the SourceForge 
>>>> (http://tapestry.sf.net).
>>>>
>>>> [3] identify the Jakarta resources to be created
>>>>
>>>> [3.1] mailing lists(s)
>>>>
>>>> superx-user
>>>> superx-dev
>>>>
>>>> [3.2] CVS repositories
>>>>
>>>> jakarta-superx
>>>>
>>>> [3.3] Bugzilla
>>>>
>>>> framework - superx
>>>> components - web site, contrib library, documentation, examples
>>>>
>>>> [3.4] Wiki
>>>>
>>>> The SuperXMailer developers would like to make use of the 
>>>> ApacheWiki in order to facillitate the admittedly spartan 
>>>> documentation.  However, its extremely easy to use.  Many Apache 
>>>> committers have received mail from persons using it with great 
>>>> results.
>>>> [4] identify the initial set of committers  (Any Jakarta commmitter 
>>>> is welcome to add their name here)
>>>>
>>>> Andrew C. Oliver
>>>>
>>>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>>>>
>>>> Glen Stampoultzis
>>>>
>>>> [5] identify apache sponsoring individuals (Any Apache member is 
>>>> welcome to add their name here)
>>>>
>>>> Andrew C. Oliver
>>>>
>>>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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