From gstein@lyra.org Thu Mar 13 22:58:21 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 10132 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 22:58:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kurgan.lyra.org) (198.144.203.199) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 22:58:21 -0000 Received: (from gstein@localhost) by kurgan.lyra.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2DN0kp28790 for general@incubator.apache.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:00:46 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: kurgan.lyra.org: gstein set sender to gstein@lyra.org using -f Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:00:45 -0800 From: Greg Stein To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Dum Question Message-ID: <20030313150045.B27108@lyra.org> References: <200303121207.12360.conor@cortexebusiness.com.au> <20030311235402.A23383@lyra.org> <3E6F3CB0.4000608@apache.org> <20030312130220.C24764@lyra.org> <3E6FA083.8070505@Golux.Com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3E6FA083.8070505@Golux.Com>; from Ken.Coar@Golux.Com on Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 04:02:59PM -0500 X-URL: http://www.lyra.org/greg/ X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 04:02:59PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >... > i believe you are mistaken. that model only permits new adoptions > into existing projects -- which is most definitely not the sole > scenario. iirc, that is *one* scenario -- but the incubator has > the task of fielding requests from external projects that want to > become part of apache. Ah. Excllent point, which I hadn't considered. I completely agree. The point which I've made in the past, but would like to reiterate is that I see the Incubator as a logistics manager for incoming projects. Not as a training ground. The future TLP is the training ground simply on the basis that it will be providing oversight to the incoming codebase. For totally new projects with no destination? Then I honestly have no idea how to provide the "training" for those people. I don't believe the Incubator can do it, but I'm also not going to even try to obstruct others who feel it is (I'd just hope people provide due consideration to whether the Incubator is the right approach). i.e. within my time constraints, I'd happily participate in verifying that logistical requirements have been met, but "training" is too amorphous for me to deal with properly [in this context]. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/