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From "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoli...@apache.org>
Subject Re: OpenSAML (was RE: Incubator DOA)
Date Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:22:19 GMT
Awesome!  Glad to know it.

Update to my comment:

The OpenSAML proponents took the comments received here and formed the 
constructive action of emailing RSA about
addressing our concerns and are waiting for a reply ;-).  It appears 
like they're keeping their eye on the ball.

Better?

-Andy

Davanum Srinivas wrote:

>FYI, Here's the message that i sent to Rob @ RSA on  Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:38:57 -0800 (PST).
No
>reply from him yet. I HAVE NOT DROPPED IT YET...
>
>--- Davanum Srinivas <dims@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:38:57 -0800 (PST)
>>From: Davanum Srinivas <dims@yahoo.com>
>>Subject: RE: IPR for SAML / OpenSAML @ Apache
>>To: "Philpott, Robert" <rphilpott@rsasecurity.com>
>>CC: 'Scott Cantor' <cantor.2@osu.edu>
>>
>>Rob,
>>
>>Looks like the consensus at Apache is NOT to accept a project (including OpenSAML)
if our
>>customers have to get a separate license from RSA to be able to actually use the stuff.
 
>>
>>Is there something RSA could do with Apache to further development and accpetance
of these
>>technologies? My direct dial is 508-628-XXXX if you want to chat a bit. 
>>
>>Sample email with negative sentiments:
>>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=104670503431392&w=2
>>
>>Full Discussion:
>>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&w=2&r=1&s=OpenSAML&q=b
>>
>>Thanks,
>>dims
>>
>>--- "Philpott, Robert" <rphilpott@rsasecurity.com> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Hello Dims,
>>>
>>>I apologize for the delayed response - I've been catching up after vacation.
>>>
>>>We (RSA) are in the process of finalizing the licensing terms.  Please
>>>remember that nothing is ever final until the lawyers sign off, so interpret
>>>what I say with that in mind. 
>>>
>>>I'll be posting an updated statement of intent to the OASIS web site
>>>shortly. I'll hopefully be able to make the final license available at that
>>>time as well. I assure you there are NO plans to change our intent to offer
>>>licensing on an RF/RAND basis.
>>>
>>>I'm currently waiting on final approval from our legal dept, which I expect
>>>in a few days.  Unfortunately, since we're going RF on this license, it
>>>understandably drops down in the priority list behind revenue-generating
>>>work items on their plate.
>>>
>>>w.r.t Toolkits - The approach we are taking is that toolkit vendors need to
>>>acquire a license and the toolkit vendor simply needs to notify users of the
>>>toolkit that they need to contact RSA to obtain a license.  The notification
>>>can take the form of a message displayed when downloading the toolkit or
>>>perhaps text in a readme file.
>>>
>>>I hope this helps explain the situation.  If you believe that our position
>>>will inhibit the decision to move forward, please let me know and we can
>>>have some further discussions.
>>>
>>>Stay tuned and feel free to post my response to the incubator-general list.
>>>
>>>Rob Philpott 
>>>RSA Security Inc. 
>>>The Most Trusted Name in e-Security 
>>>Tel: 781-515-7115 
>>>Mobile: 617-510-0893 
>>>Fax: 781-515-7020 
>>>mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:dims@yahoo.com]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:00 PM
>>>>To: Philpott, Robert
>>>>Subject: IPR for SAML / OpenSAML @ Apache
>>>>
>>>>Robert,
>>>>
>>>>I was looking at your emails to the OASIS (http://www.oasis-
>>>>open.org/committees/security/) wanted
>>>>to ask for your opinion and help.
>>>>
>>>>We have a propsal from OpenSAML/Apache folks for a new project at apache
>>>>for SAML seeded by code
>>>>from OpenSAML group.
>>>>(http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?OpenSAMLProposal).
>>>>
>>>>We are really concerned about viability of such a project because of RSA's
>>>>IPR claims. See
>>>>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&w=2&r=1&s=OpenSAML&q=b
>>>>for discussions.
>>>>
>>>>Can you please help?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>dims
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>=====
>>>>Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
>>>>
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>>>>
>>=====
>>Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
>>
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>
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