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From Davanum Srinivas <d...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: OpenSAML (was RE: Incubator DOA)
Date Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:08:30 GMT
FYI, Here's the message that i sent to Rob @ RSA on  Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:38:57 -0800 (PST).
No
reply from him yet. I HAVE NOT DROPPED IT YET...

--- Davanum Srinivas <dims@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:38:57 -0800 (PST)
> From: Davanum Srinivas <dims@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: IPR for SAML / OpenSAML @ Apache
> To: "Philpott, Robert" <rphilpott@rsasecurity.com>
> CC: 'Scott Cantor' <cantor.2@osu.edu>
> 
> Rob,
> 
> Looks like the consensus at Apache is NOT to accept a project (including OpenSAML) if
our
> customers have to get a separate license from RSA to be able to actually use the stuff.
 
> 
> Is there something RSA could do with Apache to further development and accpetance of
these
> technologies? My direct dial is 508-628-XXXX if you want to chat a bit. 
> 
> Sample email with negative sentiments:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=104670503431392&w=2
> 
> Full Discussion:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&w=2&r=1&s=OpenSAML&q=b
> 
> Thanks,
> dims
> 
> --- "Philpott, Robert" <rphilpott@rsasecurity.com> wrote:
> > Hello Dims,
> > 
> > I apologize for the delayed response - I've been catching up after vacation.
> > 
> > We (RSA) are in the process of finalizing the licensing terms.  Please
> > remember that nothing is ever final until the lawyers sign off, so interpret
> > what I say with that in mind. 
> > 
> > I'll be posting an updated statement of intent to the OASIS web site
> > shortly. I'll hopefully be able to make the final license available at that
> > time as well. I assure you there are NO plans to change our intent to offer
> > licensing on an RF/RAND basis.
> > 
> > I'm currently waiting on final approval from our legal dept, which I expect
> > in a few days.  Unfortunately, since we're going RF on this license, it
> > understandably drops down in the priority list behind revenue-generating
> > work items on their plate.
> > 
> > w.r.t Toolkits - The approach we are taking is that toolkit vendors need to
> > acquire a license and the toolkit vendor simply needs to notify users of the
> > toolkit that they need to contact RSA to obtain a license.  The notification
> > can take the form of a message displayed when downloading the toolkit or
> > perhaps text in a readme file.
> > 
> > I hope this helps explain the situation.  If you believe that our position
> > will inhibit the decision to move forward, please let me know and we can
> > have some further discussions.
> > 
> > Stay tuned and feel free to post my response to the incubator-general list.
> > 
> > Rob Philpott 
> > RSA Security Inc. 
> > The Most Trusted Name in e-Security 
> > Tel: 781-515-7115 
> > Mobile: 617-510-0893 
> > Fax: 781-515-7020 
> > mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:dims@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:00 PM
> > > To: Philpott, Robert
> > > Subject: IPR for SAML / OpenSAML @ Apache
> > > 
> > > Robert,
> > > 
> > > I was looking at your emails to the OASIS (http://www.oasis-
> > > open.org/committees/security/) wanted
> > > to ask for your opinion and help.
> > > 
> > > We have a propsal from OpenSAML/Apache folks for a new project at apache
> > > for SAML seeded by code
> > > from OpenSAML group.
> > > (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?OpenSAMLProposal).
> > > 
> > > We are really concerned about viability of such a project because of RSA's
> > > IPR claims. See
> > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&w=2&r=1&s=OpenSAML&q=b
> > > for discussions.
> > > 
> > > Can you please help?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > dims
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > =====
> > > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> > > 
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