Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 5740 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2002 01:11:42 -0000 Received: from jimsys.jagunet.com (HELO jaguNET.com) (209.133.211.10) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Nov 2002 01:11:42 -0000 Received: from [209.133.211.10] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jaguNET.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gA81Bnc0000503 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:11:49 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: apache@devsys.jagunet.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DCB0E9F.8030602@apache.org> References: <3DCB0E9F.8030602@apache.org> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:11:48 -0500 To: general@incubator.apache.org From: Jim Jagielski Subject: Re: veto stuff Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Depending on whether we are C-T-R or R-T-C things are slightly different. In any case, if someone disagrees with the patch/code, it is announced and discussed on the dev@ list. Again, the dev@ list is where code development happens. Not on pmc@; not on irc; not in someone's apartment. :) On dev@. At 2:08 AM +0100 11/8/02, Stephen McConnell wrote: >Jim: > >Is there anything that states an obligation to communicate a veto on a dev list? Is a veto valid if it is not published to the dev community? > >Cheers, Steve. > > >Jim Jagielski wrote: > >>At 12:41 AM -0500 11/7/02, Ted Husted wrote: >> >>>I agree with Steve in that the assertions that a "veto cannot be >>>overruled" and a "veto must be justified" are contradictory. The >>>implication is that a unjustified veto is void, but who decides it >>>is void? And in deciding a veto is void, is it not being >>>overruled? >>> >>> >>> >> >>The concept is that a veto must be rationlized. There must be >>a reason behind it and one that can be possibly put to a test >>(think scientific theory here). So a veto because "I don't like >>it" is not valid, and since it's not valid isn't being "overruled" >>because it just doesn't exist. >> > >-- > >Stephen J. McConnell > >OSM SARL >digital products for a global economy >mailto:mcconnell@osm.net >http://www.osm.net > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org -- =========================================================================== Jim Jagielski [|] jim@jaguNET.com [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ "A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both and deserve neither" - T.Jefferson