Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96456 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2002 13:54:56 -0000 Received: from fep01.tuttopmi.it (HELO fep01-svc.flexmail.it) (212.131.248.100) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Nov 2002 13:54:56 -0000 Received: from apache.org ([80.204.154.181]) by fep01-svc.flexmail.it (InterMail vM.5.01.05.09 201-253-122-126-109-20020611) with ESMTP id <20021107135452.GKRP27147.fep01-svc.flexmail.it@apache.org> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:54:52 +0100 Message-ID: <3DCA7066.5030809@apache.org> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 14:53:42 +0100 From: Nicola Ken Barozzi Reply-To: nicolaken@apache.org Organization: Apache Software Foundation User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: veto stuff References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Jim Jagielski wrote: > At 12:41 AM -0500 11/7/02, Ted Husted wrote: > >>I agree with Steve in that the assertions that a "veto cannot be >>overruled" and a "veto must be justified" are contradictory. The >>implication is that a unjustified veto is void, but who decides it >>is void? And in deciding a veto is void, is it not being >>overruled? > > The concept is that a veto must be rationlized. There must be > a reason behind it and one that can be possibly put to a test > (think scientific theory here). So a veto because "I don't like > it" is not valid, and since it's not valid isn't being "overruled" > because it just doesn't exist. It's not always bitwise stuff, especially in framework and highly cutting-edge projects. Everything has pros and cons, and anyone can find a con in everything... This concept works well with healthy communities, but breaks with ill ones. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) ---------------------------------------------------------------------