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From Scott Castle <scas...@adobe.com>
Subject Re: Flex Design view removed
Date Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:56:53 GMT
Oh, and one other note - unlike previous releases of Builder, Fb 4.7 and
Fb 4.6 can coexist on the same machine, so you'll be able to keep both
environments active.

On 12/13/12 10:36 AM, "Scott Castle" <scastle@adobe.com> wrote:

>It's already commercially available :
>http://www.adobe.com/products/flash-builder.html
>
>
>On 12/13/12 10:25 AM, "Antonio Guglielmo" <antonioguglielmo@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Scott,
>>When is 4.7 going to release non beta?
>>Anthony
>>
>>
>>On Dec 13, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Scott Castle <scastle@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I know this list is for Apache Flex development, but as you're all
>>> discussing Flash Builder, please permit me a tiny amount of off topic
>>>:)
>>> 
>>> As Alex said, we removed DV in order to give Apache Flex the room to
>>> develop independently of Adobe.  For those of you who rely on DV, Flash
>>> Builder 4.6 is still available (both for trial and for purchase).
>>> 
>>> Fb 4.6 download:
>>> http://www.adobe.com/support/flex/downloads_updaters.html#flex4_6_trial
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> - Scott Castle
>>> 
>>> On 12/13/12 9:14 AM, "Michael Sumner" <msumner@nbs.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I agree with Miguel.
>>>> 
>>>> The uses and thoughts are spot on.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Miguel Vaz [mailto:pagongski@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:51 AM
>>>> To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org; jeffry@dot-com-it.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Flex Design view removed
>>>> 
>>>> I second the opinion that the design view is valuable to the IDE.
>>>>Being a
>>>> seasoned flex developer, this is not an opinion from a newbie.
>>>> 
>>>> Advantages of the Design View (DV):
>>>> 
>>>> For newcomers:
>>>> 
>>>> - Easy gateway to the flex way of things;
>>>> - Invaluable for small projects with a deadline in the near past (this
>>>> one applies to both new and experienced devs).
>>>> 
>>>> For experienced devs (my personal experience):
>>>> 
>>>> - Easy jumpstart to simple projects;
>>>> - Easy jumpstart to not so simple projects - even if it implies some
>>>> cleanup afterwards - we can have a moderately working mockup up and
>>>> running much more easily if we use the DV;
>>>> - Facilitates navigation - like someone already mentioned, we switch
>>>>to
>>>> DV, click on a component, switch back to Code View(CV) to have the
>>>>cursor
>>>> on the appropriate line;
>>>> - I can get halfway coding a project, but somewhere along the line, i
>>>> always use DV for something, from aligment or some other minor
>>>>stupidity;
>>>> - DV can add some lag (seconds), but i never noticed it being anywhere
>>>> near troublesome or to interfere with work;
>>>> 
>>>> Abstract:
>>>> 
>>>> - Again, like someone else said, Design View exists in all major
>>>> languages IDEs and, no matter how you look at it, it IS a marketing
>>>> fishhook;
>>>> - Hardcore code ninjas surely think DV is obsolete, but its undeniable
>>>> that it has its place and importance on a full fledged IDE product;
>>>> - Adobe keeps making these weird marketing decisions to my amazement
>>>>and
>>>> is screwing many people's coding lives and love for flex.
>>>> 
>>>> This is merely my personal opinion. And to me is one more small thing
>>>>to
>>>> add to the slow poisoning of flex. I had other things to add, but
>>>>quite
>>>> honestly, i cant remember them right now. :-P
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Miguel Vaz
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Jeffry Houser
>>>> <jeffry@dot-com-it.com>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/13/2012 3:32 AM, Devesh Mishra wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am agree with Swen. He has given only one example here, but there
>>>>>> are so many things which will be difficult now from a developer
>>>>>>point
>>>>>> of view without DV.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The bulk of developers never use design view.  I know I don't.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do not expect Adobe to step to fill the void; however if you want
>>>>> Apache Flex to take up the charge, there are two ways:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) Open a bug / feature request in the Jira bug base and get a lot of
>>>>> people to vote on it
>>>>> 2) Build one yourself--possibly offering to donate that code to
>>>>>Apache
>>>>> Flex.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The second is more preferable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Technical Entrepreneur
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>>>>> --
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>>>>> http://www.asktheflexpert.com
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>
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