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From Scott Castle <scas...@adobe.com>
Subject Re: Flex Design view removed
Date Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:36:04 GMT
It's already commercially available :
http://www.adobe.com/products/flash-builder.html


On 12/13/12 10:25 AM, "Antonio Guglielmo" <antonioguglielmo@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Scott,
>When is 4.7 going to release non beta?
>Anthony
>
>
>On Dec 13, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Scott Castle <scastle@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>> I know this list is for Apache Flex development, but as you're all
>> discussing Flash Builder, please permit me a tiny amount of off topic :)
>> 
>> As Alex said, we removed DV in order to give Apache Flex the room to
>> develop independently of Adobe.  For those of you who rely on DV, Flash
>> Builder 4.6 is still available (both for trial and for purchase).
>> 
>> Fb 4.6 download:
>> http://www.adobe.com/support/flex/downloads_updaters.html#flex4_6_trial
>> 
>> Regards,
>> - Scott Castle
>> 
>> On 12/13/12 9:14 AM, "Michael Sumner" <msumner@nbs.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree with Miguel.
>>> 
>>> The uses and thoughts are spot on.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Miguel Vaz [mailto:pagongski@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:51 AM
>>> To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org; jeffry@dot-com-it.com
>>> Subject: Re: Flex Design view removed
>>> 
>>> I second the opinion that the design view is valuable to the IDE.
>>>Being a
>>> seasoned flex developer, this is not an opinion from a newbie.
>>> 
>>> Advantages of the Design View (DV):
>>> 
>>> For newcomers:
>>> 
>>> - Easy gateway to the flex way of things;
>>> - Invaluable for small projects with a deadline in the near past (this
>>> one applies to both new and experienced devs).
>>> 
>>> For experienced devs (my personal experience):
>>> 
>>> - Easy jumpstart to simple projects;
>>> - Easy jumpstart to not so simple projects - even if it implies some
>>> cleanup afterwards - we can have a moderately working mockup up and
>>> running much more easily if we use the DV;
>>> - Facilitates navigation - like someone already mentioned, we switch to
>>> DV, click on a component, switch back to Code View(CV) to have the
>>>cursor
>>> on the appropriate line;
>>> - I can get halfway coding a project, but somewhere along the line, i
>>> always use DV for something, from aligment or some other minor
>>>stupidity;
>>> - DV can add some lag (seconds), but i never noticed it being anywhere
>>> near troublesome or to interfere with work;
>>> 
>>> Abstract:
>>> 
>>> - Again, like someone else said, Design View exists in all major
>>> languages IDEs and, no matter how you look at it, it IS a marketing
>>> fishhook;
>>> - Hardcore code ninjas surely think DV is obsolete, but its undeniable
>>> that it has its place and importance on a full fledged IDE product;
>>> - Adobe keeps making these weird marketing decisions to my amazement
>>>and
>>> is screwing many people's coding lives and love for flex.
>>> 
>>> This is merely my personal opinion. And to me is one more small thing
>>>to
>>> add to the slow poisoning of flex. I had other things to add, but quite
>>> honestly, i cant remember them right now. :-P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Miguel Vaz
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Jeffry Houser
>>> <jeffry@dot-com-it.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/13/2012 3:32 AM, Devesh Mishra wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I am agree with Swen. He has given only one example here, but there
>>>>> are so many things which will be difficult now from a developer point
>>>>> of view without DV.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The bulk of developers never use design view.  I know I don't.
>>>> 
>>>> I do not expect Adobe to step to fill the void; however if you want
>>>> Apache Flex to take up the charge, there are two ways:
>>>> 
>>>> 1) Open a bug / feature request in the Jira bug base and get a lot of
>>>> people to vote on it
>>>> 2) Build one yourself--possibly offering to donate that code to Apache
>>>> Flex.
>>>> 
>>>> The second is more preferable.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>> 
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