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From Antonio Guglielmo <antonioguglie...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Flex Design view removed
Date Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:59:35 GMT
hence why my creative cloud never indicated I had to upgrade, now I have
both, thanks.  All I have to do now is add the SDK's to include a current
version of air and I am set.

thanks and scout is really awesome too, so much info

Anthony


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Scott Castle <scastle@adobe.com> wrote:

> Oh, and one other note - unlike previous releases of Builder, Fb 4.7 and
> Fb 4.6 can coexist on the same machine, so you'll be able to keep both
> environments active.
>
> On 12/13/12 10:36 AM, "Scott Castle" <scastle@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> >It's already commercially available :
> >http://www.adobe.com/products/flash-builder.html
> >
> >
> >On 12/13/12 10:25 AM, "Antonio Guglielmo" <antonioguglielmo@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Scott,
> >>When is 4.7 going to release non beta?
> >>Anthony
> >>
> >>
> >>On Dec 13, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Scott Castle <scastle@adobe.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi folks,
> >>> I know this list is for Apache Flex development, but as you're all
> >>> discussing Flash Builder, please permit me a tiny amount of off topic
> >>>:)
> >>>
> >>> As Alex said, we removed DV in order to give Apache Flex the room to
> >>> develop independently of Adobe.  For those of you who rely on DV, Flash
> >>> Builder 4.6 is still available (both for trial and for purchase).
> >>>
> >>> Fb 4.6 download:
> >>>
> http://www.adobe.com/support/flex/downloads_updaters.html#flex4_6_trial
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> - Scott Castle
> >>>
> >>> On 12/13/12 9:14 AM, "Michael Sumner" <msumner@nbs.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I agree with Miguel.
> >>>>
> >>>> The uses and thoughts are spot on.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Miguel Vaz [mailto:pagongski@gmail.com]
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:51 AM
> >>>> To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org; jeffry@dot-com-it.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: Flex Design view removed
> >>>>
> >>>> I second the opinion that the design view is valuable to the IDE.
> >>>>Being a
> >>>> seasoned flex developer, this is not an opinion from a newbie.
> >>>>
> >>>> Advantages of the Design View (DV):
> >>>>
> >>>> For newcomers:
> >>>>
> >>>> - Easy gateway to the flex way of things;
> >>>> - Invaluable for small projects with a deadline in the near past (this
> >>>> one applies to both new and experienced devs).
> >>>>
> >>>> For experienced devs (my personal experience):
> >>>>
> >>>> - Easy jumpstart to simple projects;
> >>>> - Easy jumpstart to not so simple projects - even if it implies some
> >>>> cleanup afterwards - we can have a moderately working mockup up and
> >>>> running much more easily if we use the DV;
> >>>> - Facilitates navigation - like someone already mentioned, we switch
> >>>>to
> >>>> DV, click on a component, switch back to Code View(CV) to have the
> >>>>cursor
> >>>> on the appropriate line;
> >>>> - I can get halfway coding a project, but somewhere along the line,
i
> >>>> always use DV for something, from aligment or some other minor
> >>>>stupidity;
> >>>> - DV can add some lag (seconds), but i never noticed it being anywhere
> >>>> near troublesome or to interfere with work;
> >>>>
> >>>> Abstract:
> >>>>
> >>>> - Again, like someone else said, Design View exists in all major
> >>>> languages IDEs and, no matter how you look at it, it IS a marketing
> >>>> fishhook;
> >>>> - Hardcore code ninjas surely think DV is obsolete, but its undeniable
> >>>> that it has its place and importance on a full fledged IDE product;
> >>>> - Adobe keeps making these weird marketing decisions to my amazement
> >>>>and
> >>>> is screwing many people's coding lives and love for flex.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is merely my personal opinion. And to me is one more small thing
> >>>>to
> >>>> add to the slow poisoning of flex. I had other things to add, but
> >>>>quite
> >>>> honestly, i cant remember them right now. :-P
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Miguel Vaz
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Jeffry Houser
> >>>> <jeffry@dot-com-it.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 12/13/2012 3:32 AM, Devesh Mishra wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I am agree with Swen. He has given only one example here, but
there
> >>>>>> are so many things which will be difficult now from a developer
> >>>>>>point
> >>>>>> of view without DV.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The bulk of developers never use design view.  I know I don't.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I do not expect Adobe to step to fill the void; however if you want
> >>>>> Apache Flex to take up the charge, there are two ways:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) Open a bug / feature request in the Jira bug base and get a lot
of
> >>>>> people to vote on it
> >>>>> 2) Build one yourself--possibly offering to donate that code to
> >>>>>Apache
> >>>>> Flex.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The second is more preferable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Jeffry Houser
> >>>>> Technical Entrepreneur
> >>>>> 203-379-0773
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> http://www.flextras.com?c=104
> >>>>> UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready!
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> http://www.theflexshow.com
> >>>>> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
> >>>>> http://www.asktheflexpert.com
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>

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