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From Antonio Guglielmo <antonioguglie...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Flex Design view removed
Date Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:25:40 GMT
Scott,
When is 4.7 going to release non beta?
Anthony


On Dec 13, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Scott Castle <scastle@adobe.com> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I know this list is for Apache Flex development, but as you're all
> discussing Flash Builder, please permit me a tiny amount of off topic :)
> 
> As Alex said, we removed DV in order to give Apache Flex the room to
> develop independently of Adobe.  For those of you who rely on DV, Flash
> Builder 4.6 is still available (both for trial and for purchase).
> 
> Fb 4.6 download: 
> http://www.adobe.com/support/flex/downloads_updaters.html#flex4_6_trial
> 
> Regards,
> - Scott Castle
> 
> On 12/13/12 9:14 AM, "Michael Sumner" <msumner@nbs.com> wrote:
> 
>> I agree with Miguel.
>> 
>> The uses and thoughts are spot on.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Miguel Vaz [mailto:pagongski@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:51 AM
>> To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org; jeffry@dot-com-it.com
>> Subject: Re: Flex Design view removed
>> 
>> I second the opinion that the design view is valuable to the IDE. Being a
>> seasoned flex developer, this is not an opinion from a newbie.
>> 
>> Advantages of the Design View (DV):
>> 
>> For newcomers:
>> 
>> - Easy gateway to the flex way of things;
>> - Invaluable for small projects with a deadline in the near past (this
>> one applies to both new and experienced devs).
>> 
>> For experienced devs (my personal experience):
>> 
>> - Easy jumpstart to simple projects;
>> - Easy jumpstart to not so simple projects - even if it implies some
>> cleanup afterwards - we can have a moderately working mockup up and
>> running much more easily if we use the DV;
>> - Facilitates navigation - like someone already mentioned, we switch to
>> DV, click on a component, switch back to Code View(CV) to have the cursor
>> on the appropriate line;
>> - I can get halfway coding a project, but somewhere along the line, i
>> always use DV for something, from aligment or some other minor stupidity;
>> - DV can add some lag (seconds), but i never noticed it being anywhere
>> near troublesome or to interfere with work;
>> 
>> Abstract:
>> 
>> - Again, like someone else said, Design View exists in all major
>> languages IDEs and, no matter how you look at it, it IS a marketing
>> fishhook;
>> - Hardcore code ninjas surely think DV is obsolete, but its undeniable
>> that it has its place and importance on a full fledged IDE product;
>> - Adobe keeps making these weird marketing decisions to my amazement and
>> is screwing many people's coding lives and love for flex.
>> 
>> This is merely my personal opinion. And to me is one more small thing to
>> add to the slow poisoning of flex. I had other things to add, but quite
>> honestly, i cant remember them right now. :-P
>> 
>> 
>> Miguel Vaz
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Jeffry Houser
>> <jeffry@dot-com-it.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/13/2012 3:32 AM, Devesh Mishra wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am agree with Swen. He has given only one example here, but there
>>>> are so many things which will be difficult now from a developer point
>>>> of view without DV.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The bulk of developers never use design view.  I know I don't.
>>> 
>>> I do not expect Adobe to step to fill the void; however if you want
>>> Apache Flex to take up the charge, there are two ways:
>>> 
>>> 1) Open a bug / feature request in the Jira bug base and get a lot of
>>> people to vote on it
>>> 2) Build one yourself--possibly offering to donate that code to Apache
>>> Flex.
>>> 
>>> The second is more preferable.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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