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Subject: Re: What is the general perception of Apache Flex and Flash in mid
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:57:29 -0400
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Hi,

While I agree in general with the last three emails on the importance of =
Flex, I am worried.  In the last 6 months since Apache started work on =
Flex, I have seen no discussion about features, and no plans of =
development.  So, while I really want Flex to survive and grow, I am =
among those who are worried that my recent development work might all =
need to be rewritten (or hopefully) converted to JS.  If any of you know =
where concrete information about plans and progress can be found, I =
think it needs to made more available to the public.

The following link was last updated in April when there was a =
conference, and only mentioned some of the more important attendees, but =
no substance.  There was a link to the 360flex conference, which I =
viewed over the web.
https://blogs.apache.org/flex/

The conference was encouraging that Adobe was donating a little more =
work soon to be finished, but the conference gave little to no =
indication of what was going to happen to Flex within Apache.
http://www.360flex.com/

The following link does announce 4.6, which as I understand it, is a =
near equivalent to Adobe 4.5, and this is an important step, but where =
does the project go from here?
http://incubator.apache.org/flex/

If the Apache Flex wants people to believe in the future of Flex a much =
better job has to be done delivering information about possible features =
considered, features to be included, plans for development, and release =
schedules.

Gary


On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Scott Matheson wrote:

> Hi
>    I would say there are a number of issue, HTML / Java script is not =
the way for complex development unless you develop with a  commercial =
tool, then you are back in to tie in problem, so no  , HTML / Java =
script is not the answer
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> The lack of visibility "marketing" of the community efforts does hurt =
management view of the future
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> The real issue is the statements from OS providers and apparent lack =
of flash player support in new products, Microsoft W8 tiles, new MS pad, =
flash player in browsers etc. is just confusing, and unless you have =
time to understand the details of each and every statement you just get =
confused, I know that is the purpose of these companies
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> So all this confusion drives you to HTML / Java script
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> What we want to know is that they is a real effort from the community =
to create flex compilers that will generate HTML / Java script or some =
other run time that gives us back the build once run any place, IMHO =
this is the key to keeping enterprises working with Flex, we have to =
live with our work for 5-10 years, we need protection from Microsoft, =
Apple, Google etc.
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> Scott
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John DiRuggiero [mailto:jdiru@me.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:26 AM
> To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: What is the general perception of Apache Flex and Flash =
in mid 2012?
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> Successfully building mobile apps has been achieved through =
development on the Flex framework. I see Flex as indicated by the name =
as flexible and the power and elegance of ActionScript 3 makes one hope =
that Apache Flex will continue to be successful and continue to =
collectively grow.
> - John D.
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> On Jun 27, 2012, at 3:53 AM, Raju Bitter wrote:
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>> It has been more than half a year since Adobe announced that they are
>> going to donate Flex to the Apache Foundation. The community has been
>> very active to work on a first 4.8 Apache Flex release.
>>=20
>> What are your experiences with colleagues, friends and maybe =
customers
>> when you talk about the Apache Flex project? Do they see the whole
>> effort as something very positive, or is the general attitude more
>> like: "Let's see if Flex is going to survive as an Apache project".
>>=20
>> I have the feeling that more people seem to realize that HTML5 apps
>> are not as perfect/powerful as they thought they'd be, but at the =
same
>> time the general interest in Flash - outside the online game industry
>> - seems to be relatively low. I can imagine that a first 4.8 release
>> will convince people that Apache Flex is going to be successful ASF
>> project.
>>=20
>> I'd be really interested in what your experiences have been in the
>> past months, as Flex experts, project managers, evangelists...
>>=20
>> - Raju
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