Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E95C5DF35 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 44157 invoked by uid 500); 17 Dec 2012 12:01:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44128 invoked by uid 500); 17 Dec 2012 12:01:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44110 invoked by uid 99); 17 Dec 2012 12:01:12 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:01:12 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of harbs.lists@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.175] (HELO mail-we0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:01:04 +0000 Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id z53so2531299wey.6 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:00:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=dHpTmxH2tDEJATCdrVjH8lG1ggT8V8DNQvTe056qhYg=; b=aYQww9lqAYfpunK9txRS4N8MyqKNfAzn6aiz2XOJuJyd3tJc1u10LUjcwstIfpt9gD q1E+ZzNFUpKfVJl38rNULkQTXopqmXVXcf+LrRc5dJu08QxI2Z5puGUm6yK0Raj9JPGy 6HI6y6aq+oFUd2e3ZTmutgej8D7VVcQOvceAh1LgPXGIh/w5TieYTTlBZtc5nFv6Uidd iNoFcuhUxzx5czit1qqIxAFVAidHOEsJrbxdN1EIcCjozCYXjnUaP1Z69DBBNxUqMFqW 6wd5aExERF3ftQ5b2E5SwtcFpZpINMBHGWpe/PD/qQ9A9TNZjAKxYbcqgVyB5hfnC3be ANZA== Received: by 10.194.86.72 with SMTP id n8mr16578193wjz.19.1355745642253; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.20] ([95.35.63.213]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dw4sm12141053wib.1.2012.12.17.04.00.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:00:41 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: [FalconJx] Prototype ActionScript -> JavaScript compiler code up in svn From: Harbs In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:00:39 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <10A8BA20-111A-433B-8A1D-A4917B02F43C@gmail.com> References: <20121213193125.39700rxwp4q1yna5@franklin.liquidweb.com> <50CB0596.8040808@gmail.com> <20121214061715.18015fazzb79m2ez@franklin.liquidweb.com> <50CB5BD6.9070600@unFocus.com> <20121214122815.20374q32wnyt58z3@franklin.liquidweb.com> <3DBDD3EF-7989-4F60-99FE-B63DB7544C95@gmail.com> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org That's great to hear! I for one, am very happy to hear that you're still committed to this. = The possibilities are incredible. You made some pretty strong arguments = for the hybrid Randori kind of approach. Of course, the arguments are = strongest when dealing with large teams so you have separate people = working on the UI and business logic. I'm pretty encouraged over the = prospect that there will be multiple ways of leveraging ActionScript / = Flex in web applications. Having the option of choosing the Randori type = of approach or cross-compiling actual components would really broaden = the viability of Flex moving forward. Things are definitely getting more and more interesting around here. :-) Harbs On Dec 16, 2012, at 10:31 PM, Michael A. Labriola wrote: >> I've been following this whole discussion in the background with a = lot of interest. I don't have much to contribute at this point, so I've = been quiet. Mike L., I know you were somewhat disillusioned by the = amount of >time it took Adobe to get Flacon/ Flacon JS contributed. Is = there anything from your Randori work (very interesting by the way!) = that would be useful for this project? >=20 > There is a ton. Actually, I have been watching Mike S.'s progress and = am really excited by the prospects. When things are ready, I just need = to make sure we have an appropriate extension hook in Falcon where we = can hook the AST before code generation (that is what we are doing in = Randori now for C#). Then we can port our extension to Falcon as well = and Randori will work regardless of whether you are coding in C# or in = AS, which was always the goal. >=20 > It's also not the I was necessarily disillusioned. Its more that, in = the absence of having a compiler to work on here, I wanted to prove the = concept and refine what I believe the be the right way to move forward = in the browser. The C# compiler gave me a way to do that immediately and = I was just more about doing than waiting. In no way have I abandoned = what we are doing here. I think bug fixing and working on the existing = framework is really important, but I personally don't see Flash Player = as our way forward, so, for the hours I had, I felt that the best way I = could help us all was to learn what it really takes to deploy an = enterprise app in JS and how to get there. >=20 > Mike >=20 >=20