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From: Antonio Ortiz <zenkai_@hotmail.com>
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Subject: RE: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:47:48 -0600
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I agree with Carlos rovira.
That will be the best way to keep flex alive and better


> Date: Thu=2C 15 Nov 2012 15:42:46 +0100
> Subject: Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in Flashp=
layer 12?
> From: carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
>=20
> I think that in the end a total rewrite should be done and better to do i=
t
> directly in AS4. As I said some weeks ago my wishes for this project woul=
d
> be to get:
>=20
> * SWF and HTML/JS output. (this will make traction since people going to
> HTML/JS are suffering the lack of OOP).
> * For SWF=2C build on top of Stage3D / Workers.
>=20
> Start Flex from scratch would bring all things that are make flex a kille=
r
> platform and remove all deprecated and legacy coming from Flash MX days.
> This should simplify Flex comparing with what we have today.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> 2012/11/15 Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicholas@spoon.as>
>=20
> > It's hard to discern what AS4 will really include.  I've only been piec=
ing
> > some of the info together from various chats and blog posts from some o=
f
> > the FP team members.  Porting Flex to AS4 would most likely be even har=
der
> > than it would have been for Stage3D...
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> > On Thu=2C Nov 15=2C 2012 at 9:12 AM=2C Carlos Rovira <
> > carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >Starling won't be compatible with it
> > >
> > > Interesting=2C I was not aware about this fact. In my mind the first
> > > important task for Flex 5 would be to move to Starling + Stage3D...in
> > case
> > > this could be done=2C it should be revisited again to go AS4+AVMNext.=
..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/11/15 Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicholas@spoon.as>
> > >
> > > > Sebastian=2C
> > > >
> > > > From what Adobe has told publicly=2C the new AVM (AVM3 / AS4) will =
be
> > very
> > > > different from AVM2/AS3.  No display lists=2C uses "Stage3D" for
> > > everything=2C
> > > > etc.  They haven't said anything more other than Starling won't be
> > > > compatible with it -- there may be a new version created=2C but sin=
ce AS4
> > > > will be different people will have to re-write large portions of co=
de
> > to
> > > > use it.
> > > >
> > > > -Nick
> > > >
> > > > On Thu=2C Nov 15=2C 2012 at 5:04 AM=2C Sebastian Mohr <
> > flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi there=2C
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have any insides of the new AVM of the forthcoming
> > > > > Flashplayer 12 in 2013? Are there any APIs (e.g. specification
> > > documents)
> > > > > that Adobe is willing to share? Is Starling [1] the only hook we =
can
> > > get?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely Yours=2C
> > > > >
> > > > > Sebastian Mohr
> > > > > Apache Flex Developer (PPMC)=2C
> > > > > Interaction Designer & Musician
> > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/masuland
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] http://gamua.com/starling/
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > Director de Tecnolog=EDa
> > > M: +34 607 22 60 05
> > > F:  +34 912 35 57 77
> > > http://www.codeoscopic.com
> > > http://www.directwriter.es
> > > http://www.avant2.es
> > >
> >
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Carlos Rovira
> Director de Tecnolog=EDa
> M: +34 607 22 60 05
> F:  +34 912 35 57 77
> http://www.codeoscopic.com
> http://www.directwriter.es
> http://www.avant2.es
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