Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D291D824 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20088 invoked by uid 500); 15 Nov 2012 15:08:15 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 20051 invoked by uid 500); 15 Nov 2012 15:08:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 20033 invoked by uid 99); 15 Nov 2012 15:08:13 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:08:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_REPLY,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of yukatan@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.54 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.54] (HELO mail-qa0-f54.google.com) (209.85.216.54) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:08:08 +0000 Received: by mail-qa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id g24so1535056qab.6 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 07:07:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6dn5rdHGHEWQL/LCJt7CSsShPlDrzluqwVzYqXrE+5k=; b=JbBeWO4IHevaUyX51QcKOEWp6uwG6PozaWM46Rjpr7PSX0QIoWS56brOgeRURoZC1C tsL9xtZY3Xv8SFi423oaV92hCrpwnULL/JtUJV347w/BUgIpKWm9ekRT6qkD69JTFypN bCl5wRIuCwqOKn7uQJVYGchZEpOyx4ers0uSVcaRz9laX8dJg6t1b5a4MUpWfeCJtsDh Ort1+uLK0hSG9rq9OBNXwNw+bMjl1PaVkmD1FUfmZr0dexAFc1K+4lnbS34ZPijyn2I5 4tfyuyCqIpZOhCgoWvb0ujS09wz4hruvq6XXxa/umzvgRyEulYtHzskr1zmOyxhhnQ7x SMRA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.193.2 with SMTP id ds2mr1407197qab.12.1352992067192; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 07:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.70.162 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 07:07:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7698DA69-C4BB-4A1F-8200-ED497EB422DE@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:07:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in Flashplayer 12? From: Jesus Barquin To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3005de808c882104ce8a0305 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --20cf3005de808c882104ce8a0305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with Carlos. 2012/11/15 Antonio Ortiz > I agree with Carlos rovira. > That will be the best way to keep flex alive and better > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:42:46 +0100 > > Subject: Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in > Flashplayer 12? > > From: carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com > > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > > I think that in the end a total rewrite should be done and better to do > it > > directly in AS4. As I said some weeks ago my wishes for this project > would > > be to get: > > > > * SWF and HTML/JS output. (this will make traction since people going t= o > > HTML/JS are suffering the lack of OOP). > > * For SWF, build on top of Stage3D / Workers. > > > > Start Flex from scratch would bring all things that are make flex a > killer > > platform and remove all deprecated and legacy coming from Flash MX days= . > > This should simplify Flex comparing with what we have today. > > > > > > > > 2012/11/15 Nicholas Kwiatkowski > > > > > It's hard to discern what AS4 will really include. I've only been > piecing > > > some of the info together from various chats and blog posts from some > of > > > the FP team members. Porting Flex to AS4 would most likely be even > harder > > > than it would have been for Stage3D... > > > > > > -Nick > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Carlos Rovira < > > > carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >Starling won't be compatible with it > > > > > > > > Interesting, I was not aware about this fact. In my mind the first > > > > important task for Flex 5 would be to move to Starling + Stage3D...= in > > > case > > > > this could be done, it should be revisited again to go AS4+AVMNext.= .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/11/15 Nicholas Kwiatkowski > > > > > > > > > Sebastian, > > > > > > > > > > From what Adobe has told publicly, the new AVM (AVM3 / AS4) will = be > > > very > > > > > different from AVM2/AS3. No display lists, uses "Stage3D" for > > > > everything, > > > > > etc. They haven't said anything more other than Starling won't b= e > > > > > compatible with it -- there may be a new version created, but > since AS4 > > > > > will be different people will have to re-write large portions of > code > > > to > > > > > use it. > > > > > > > > > > -Nick > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Sebastian Mohr < > > > flex.masuland@gmail.com > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any insides of the new AVM of the forthcoming > > > > > > Flashplayer 12 in 2013? Are there any APIs (e.g. specification > > > > documents) > > > > > > that Adobe is willing to share? Is Starling [1] the only hook w= e > can > > > > get? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely Yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Mohr > > > > > > Apache Flex Developer (PPMC), > > > > > > Interaction Designer & Musician > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/masuland > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] http://gamua.com/starling/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Carlos Rovira > > > > Director de Tecnolog=EDa > > > > M: +34 607 22 60 05 > > > > F: +34 912 35 57 77 > > > > http://www.codeoscopic.com > > > > http://www.directwriter.es > > > > http://www.avant2.es > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Carlos Rovira > > Director de Tecnolog=EDa > > M: +34 607 22 60 05 > > F: +34 912 35 57 77 > > http://www.codeoscopic.com > > http://www.directwriter.es > > http://www.avant2.es > > --20cf3005de808c882104ce8a0305--