Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73C8FD361 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97016 invoked by uid 500); 15 Nov 2012 11:27:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96963 invoked by uid 500); 15 Nov 2012 11:27:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96946 invoked by uid 99); 15 Nov 2012 11:27:51 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:27:51 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of carlos.rovira@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.171 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.171] (HELO mail-wi0-f171.google.com) (209.85.212.171) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:27:45 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id c10so2898007wiw.0 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:27:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=h3M6wEWdLT9AgkwefIaD32nGOxjOAKOsV0TjWvv39HI=; b=jbGvTvW4qh5h/t+8dUz6vkLAS3t+kufDp9HWGYibFxs1g9zMNllxj7wzL8O+8BRltv GzXvmi9p6k4mpRndqchvtFkMi0jE2bH3GmGdXV3s/sqmwSK7CeJOd+XDgEo0NIrCVY3z efSKSCT2egbMPIGy2ofrZuXsIuoCFJD1+2Sdg5Gbiwc6KlkbuLtuX6ljbuC5a5FQ0enD ErQdbRf5jgKGq1Q7Mz95g7PFC8dtoblEPTmHke6uaMqd8btDvMm8xA03B+QjRH/supYi YvJIVabqGaFpF+m3btP9aOm3r2Lmi7USKT1p+gA0KF5n0Tnqf+IRRGzywSp84vTDjlbm rY2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.207.170 with SMTP id n42mr390171weo.173.1352978844957; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:27:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: carlos.rovira@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.42.167 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:27:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20121115060837.168779djzbl6tv79@www.teotigraphix.com> References: <20121114170650.1157251vzkdlxfju@www.teotigraphix.com> <149F8129B58B2D418508E63117D9C5419B5B2246D9@nambx05.corp.adobe.com> <20121114183424.13703q3xcol2zekg@www.teotigraphix.com> <20121114194015.2517762yduz7homn@www.teotigraphix.com> <20121115055855.42063exxdzpkwrfz@www.teotigraphix.com> <20121115060837.168779djzbl6tv79@www.teotigraphix.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:27:24 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: iPQaEAdouwKDM2Menj9-pnCMEE4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FALCON] It starts with an idea From: Carlos Rovira To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd8bd9713e0004ce86efc7 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --0016e6dd8bd9713e0004ce86efc7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I understand your points, and seems very logical. I only want to express this thoughts I was having and my fear that this project would end having many new disconnected things that finaly ends with it in the future, and see others opinion. Taking things like "one-man-effort" seems to be the natural way, since only traction of that one effort could make people to join that particular cause. 2012/11/15 Michael Schmalle > BTW; > > I am having a REAL HARD time understanding why Android is different from > the Flash Player, AIR etc. > > The only thing I am starting to get here is this project is still married > to Adobe in a big way. > > It's a shame, I bring up an idea about bridging the Flex compiler to some > other open-source project and I get the "your not inline with the project= s > goals". > > What to keep giving Adobe and their Flash Player all the support and hype= , > hey they have Stage3D now folks we must create a whole new framework that > runs on it!? > > Is there any other Apache project that is so dependent on a proprietary > technology like Flex is with the Flash Player? > > Mike > > > > Quoting Michael Schmalle : > > Hey, >> >> Don't get me wrong here people, I always sound like an instigator becaus= e >> I love life to much to be tied down to a thought. >> >> Yes I read Carlos's thoughts on splitting the project and not being >> "inline" with the project's "multi-deployment" goals. This is where >> translation gets lost in email and culture I guess. >> >> Please re-read what I wrote about the Swiss Army knife analogy. >> >> All, I am not a corporation nor an huge entity that could create this >> mammoth run everywhere dream you hope of. I AM a developer that is very >> into Android and see a bridge with this project. A use-case. >> >> So who is to say If I could with others help get this to work, that it >> couldn't then be applied to other platforms? >> >> My strong emphasis on Android is to say, hey focus on the one >> first(something that you are good at), get it right, perfect it and then >> move to the many. That is all I am saying, how we get there is another >> story. >> >> >> Bertrand, your right with that comment about splitting communities. I >> guess this is why I haven't brought this up because I disagree with the >> main mission of the run everywhere majic this project is trying to hold,= I >> think it's holding ti back. >> >> The truth is, If I got ostracized because of this idea I would just quit >> and do all Android/Music like my original plan was, why even help someth= ing >> I don't use. >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> Quoting Bertrand Delacretaz : >> >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Rovira >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ...My key points here is: whatever you want to do is up to you, but to >>>> be part >>>> of Apache Flex should be aligned with the main focus and goal of the >>>> project. If you use the Falcon compiler to make something useful but >>>> different, I think it could be a brand new project, that could have >>>> sense >>>> in its own.... >>>> >>> >>> Splitting projects usually splits communities as well - IMO some >>> android-specific stuff could very well live in an "android" subfolder >>> here. >>> >>> -Bertrand >>> >>> >> -- >> Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC >> http://www.teotigraphix.com >> http://blog.teotigraphix.com >> >> >> > -- > Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC > http://www.teotigraphix.com > http://blog.teotigraphix.com > > --=20 Carlos Rovira Director de Tecnolog=EDa M: +34 607 22 60 05 F: +34 912 35 57 77 http://www.codeoscopic.com http://www.directwriter.es http://www.avant2.es --0016e6dd8bd9713e0004ce86efc7--