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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:33:20 +0100
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Subject: Re: Flex 5 in haxe
From: Alain Ekambi <jazzmatadazz@gmail.com>
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Hello folks,

I would like to add my 2 cents to this interesing discussion.

First let me share my experience with the Flash platform.

We  have been building Flash based solutions  for many years now.
We have  different set of products mostly based on GWT that cover all the
spectrum (Native mobile, HTML5 mobile, HTML5 Desktop, Flex, AIR ).
And i can tell you that our Flash based products are by faar the most
succesfull !
Hard to believe no ?

A couple of weeks we had a beta release for the version 3 of our GWT
binding for Flash (http://emitrom.com/flash4j-beta).
Download numbers were just insane ! Breaking every records we ever had for
a products.
And that after all all the bad moves done by Adobe.


For what I can say 99% of our customers (And we have some big ones)  use
our Flash products  because it runs on the Flash player!
Not because it could compile down the JS.

With all the respect there are simply way better JS based libraries.
If i want to target HTML5/JS/CSS today(and tomorrow) i def wont be thinking
about Flex/MXML/AS3.
The same apply for our customers.

Some of you are talking about Flex/AIR on mobile and think that an HTML5
 output will make things better.
Let s keep it honest. Flex is simply a non factor on mobile and will never
be a major player.
No matter how we turn it.
And compiling to HTML5 wont change that. There are simply better
alternative on the market.


I ve said it many times on this forum.
All this talk about going  HTML5 with Flex is nice and surelly interesting
from a technical point.
But brings nothing to most customers.


Our focus should be on making Flex even better for Desktop RIA (I do have
some plans with FaBridge that i hope i will be able to commnunicate soon).


The rest is simply waste of energy and time.

Cheers


2012/11/16 Carlos Rovira <carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com>

> Hi Justin,
>
> as someone with lots of apps and products written in current Flex, I woul=
d
> want to continue with my products migration to new versions. But the
> reality out there is that all ways points to a new rewrite. I'm sure ther=
e
> are people here that wants maintain and evolutione the actual framework,
> great!
>
> I, as others prefer a new child, so I would spend my time in that kind of
> effort.
>
> btw, I see that mostly my apps and products will end if Flex 4.x, but may=
be
> some day could be migrated to the new Flex 5.x . All depends on how good
> that new framework came and if gets the necesary traction to mimic the
> actual Flex 4.x. Only time will tell, in the mean while, I'll try to
> upgrade to new Apache Flex official releases to stay up to the latest
> versions...
>
>
> 2012/11/16 Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > a new flex 5 from scratch concept would not be trying to be compatibl=
e
> > backwards.
> > So it's not Flex then but a new framework. I'm sure that would be fun,
> but
> > how would that serve the current users of the Flex framework? Would the=
re
> > be a clear migration path?
> >
> > > If the task of write a new Flex is huge...
> > So let don't and try and improved the one we do have, it's sounds a lot
> > easier to do and more useful to me.
> >
> > Just my opinion, and you're free to do what you want on an Apache
> project,
> > so don't let me stop you :-)
> >
> > Justin
>
>
>
>
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