Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7F1FD4B3 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23091 invoked by uid 500); 29 Nov 2012 00:13:41 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 23055 invoked by uid 500); 29 Nov 2012 00:13:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 23047 invoked by uid 99); 29 Nov 2012 00:13:41 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:13:41 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.220.175] (HELO mail-vc0-f175.google.com) (209.85.220.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:13:36 +0000 Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id m8so10279921vcd.6 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:13:14 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ZIl0m6ADhQnojcnY8WdE/BIoWrx94R1ky/v8sVZXQZs=; b=RFWksUKJ9yWxsxxvnbSE/vPj09i8F7md7XtDvj9IekUD3eT+Kno3zNz+pq7vklBZqW tyBA/O2f/MA41WhALuT3oVjGbjFgc/xxtaxBGIsGtRhn6F1I5IRW7qSTtZCFv9iZTwmq 3/ZxjvdXFS0HPzVdZFuFafxVk8zLKIuY2dKNvFKNO3DdL0IU+Uq8b7LC+Icjpj13Ojss iTJSxMEfstKzhxspe8F15LzCzHzEt3gmwI4AkmI/vm+/b7HElTIOn2B2c9XCcASl0irS jIKd4zM5CEK2a6Zob7wr7k7IxIRSmJBKUV47wBU50VYBMPGLgmVC5lx3viV0tke+mMP4 pRPA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.100.232 with SMTP id fb8mr26042044vdb.126.1354147994488; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:13:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.251.36 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:13:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50B6A390.6060706@gmail.com> References: <50B68DFB.2000004@gmail.com> <20121128172617.99734qine25om1zd@teotigraphix.com> <50B6979D.1040905@gmail.com> <20121128180855.49354x2ufd84t37r@teotigraphix.com> <50B6A390.6060706@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 01:13:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FalconJS] concepts From: Frank Wienberg To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3063da512f4f8304cf9726a2 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm5wEBacMPcn7hDAVw9bHRsvb04Q0uMPwYWBKKSEuhldyST0phzfSiFz1VFPiPuTLSJqQBZ X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --20cf3063da512f4f8304cf9726a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Daniel Wasilewski wrote: > One question straight away after looking at your source code > implementation. > > Why did you have to implement custom display list for AS3 itself? > Do you mean JooFlash? Well, Adobe still did not open-source the Flash runtime, so we had to re-implement it. I wrote a tool that "screen-scraped" the whole FlashPlayer 11 API from the HTML ASDoc and reverse-engineers it into AS3 code -- of course API-only, and started to fill the gaps. As you can see, it suffices for several games, Box2D and Open Flash Charts, but not yet for Flex. > Was my assumption correct? That you were trying to bridge a gaps? If so, > how much effort it would be to do the same with mxml? > > Actually, I am currently working on MXML support for the Jangaroo compiler. Another case of redoing Adobe's work! ;-) But really, until now, we did not dare to dig into the Flex compiler code, and what I read in this mailing list is not very encouraging, too. Thus, so far, we kept our own compiler, which is much more light-weight and controllable (at least for us), but of course lacks some important features and is still not 100% compatible with mxmlc. However, we were able to take quite complex AS3 projects and recompile them without changing a single line of code, e.g. Open Flash Charts . More about this in my upcoming answer to Michael. -Frank- --20cf3063da512f4f8304cf9726a2--