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[84.193.152.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gk9sm2786877wib.4.2012.11.16.14.55.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:55:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Flex 5 in haxe References: <149F8129B58B2D418508E63117D9C5419B5B35FF86@nambx05.corp.adobe.com> <149F8129B58B2D418508E63117D9C5419B5B35FF9C@nambx05.corp.adobe.com> From: Frederic Cox Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A403) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7E614C98-187E-4823-BBC2-7935CD927C19@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:55:31 +0100 To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I expect more momentum in the coming months due to developers realizing, or m= arketeers realizing, what HTML5 in practice means... Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Op 16-nov.-2012 om 23:23 heeft Om het volgende geschr= even: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >=20 >> I think that developers can continue to build good apps with AS3 and V11,= >> but I'm assuming -- perhaps wrongly -- that the demand for them is going t= o >> decrease because companies see that Adobe is no longer investing many >> resources in them. Hasn't demand already fallen off over the last year? A= re >> developers on this list still able to earn a living building new Flex app= s, >> or are you maintaining old ones? >=20 > Where I work, I am building new Flex apps targetting web and mobile > platforms. There are other teams here that are either maintaining or > building brand new Flex apps. There was some talk about HTML5/JS till a > few months after the Adobe announcement, but that was settled very quickly= > because no other technology comes close to Flex in terms of richness, > maintainability and ease of use. >=20 > Two points to note: > 1. More and more teams/developers are getting burnt by the promise of > HTML5. > 2. Flex is still a very powerful brand. It has taken some beating but is= > still standing strong. >=20 > Lets not conflate the term "mature, tried and tested" with the term "old > and aging" >=20 > Thanks, > Om >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> - Gordon >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fr=C3=A9deric Cox [mailto:coxfrederic@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 2:01 PM >> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Flex 5 in haxe >>=20 >> I understand what you mean here but isn't that always going to be the >> case. AS4 will go into maintenance mode, then AS5 etc.. What I don't >> understand is why AS3 is not good enough for a Flex 5 version or even Fle= x >> 6 which will export to multiple targets. Can you elaborate on that? >>=20 >> Output should be a invisible layer (JS, iOS, Android, SWF, .. Shouldn't >> matter for the developer). I think most developers like Flex because of t= he >> ease-of-use(binding,mxml), rapid development(OOP, components, ..) and >> multiplatform (mobile, desktop, ..) and I don't see the need for AS4 ther= e=C5=A0 >> but I'm not export on the subject (just eager to learn more about >> it) >>=20 >> On 16/11/12 22:48, "Gordon Smith" wrote: >>=20 >>> The continued support is that AS3 and V11 and AIR-for-V11 aren't going >>> away. But I think the idea is that they go into maintenance mode. >>> They're not the technology of the future. Do you want to develop for an >>> old, aging platform? >>=20 >>=20 >>=20