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Subject: Re: Flex 5 in haxe
From: Hordur Thordarson <hordur@lausn.is>
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Yeah well Firefox is in a hole re the Flash plugin because they need it =
for video playback (H264) which btw is driving a lot of web usage these =
days.

I haven't been following the dev of the Chrome pepper stuff so I can't =
comment on that.  I do use Flash in Chrome a lot though and haven't had =
any major problems.  But YMMV as always.

As for the plugin architecture in the browser, it is allready mostly =
gone from mobile browsers, but I don't think it will dissappear from =
desktop browsers any time soon because there are still a lot of things =
the Flash plugin can do that the browsers can't and there is also an =
enormous amount of software out there that requres the Flash plugin and =
developers like are still adding more, just look at the activity in =
Flash based games running in the browser (Zynga, Rovio and a bunch of =
others are still happily churning out Flash based games).

On 17.11.2012, at 16:34, Omar Gonzalez wrote:

> On Saturday, November 17, 2012, Hordur Thordarson wrote:
>=20
>>>=20
>> But maybe I'm reading all this wrong or maybe I'm believing too much =
what
>> I think I'm reading or maybe the people here advocating a HTML/JS =
strategy
>> for Flex have been burned more by Adobe than I have.
>>=20
>>=20
> Bingo!
>=20
> Also, Adobe can say whatever they want about their plans for Flash =
Player
> plugins. The truth is Firefox has at one point stated, from one of =
their
> VPs, that they would love to just not have a plugin architecture at =
all and
> basically tell Flash to go F itself. Microsoft tried that with Metro =
and
> they got some backlash so they put it back in 'desktop' mode. Then we =
have
> the Chrome pepper API, wow, wht a mess. It gets buggier and buggier =
with
> time. What does this all say to me?  Plugin architecture has its days
> numbered. You can shove your head in the sand and choose to ignore the
> writing on the wall or you can start to strategize for a life without =
Flash
> Player plugin. I choose to be prepared. Whether HTML5 is ready or not =
and
> whether its more efficient to develop in or not that is where the =
industry
> is heading.
>=20
> -omar