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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:34:24 -0500
From: Michael Schmalle <apache@teotigraphix.com>
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [FALCON] It starts with an idea
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Yes, it does exist and Google has don a fine job promoting their  
layout designer etc.

Coming from years of Flex development and MXML application design I  
can certainly say that although using XML as they do is great, having  
a compiler like the MXML compiler could offer a huge abstraction that  
their XML could not match.

Plus the extension side of being able to produce their layout XML OR  
straight Java constructs is compelling enough for me to want to try it.

One of the great things I am realizing about Apache is I don't work  
for a corporation and even the WC3. I work for myself fulfilling  
something I see that could help "something", maybe myself as centered  
as that sounds.

Regardless of this idea I have, my point is this. One of Adobe's  
marketing schemes was to throw crap on every wall possible and market  
it as such with huge holes in between.

Apache Flex will get a new life if us committers and community realize  
it didn't work then and it won't work now. (The one size fits all). I  
want to start off with point specific tools that do 1 thing. I have  
developed enough tools to know you don't invent a swiss army knife  
until you have invented the knife, screwdriver, cork opener etc. Once  
you have all the tools you can then put them together.

As far a JavFX well, I don't know I haven't used it.

Like I said, I have no stake in Flex and I want to stay away from the  
Flash Player and AIR. This doesn't mean I won't contribute if momentum  
goes in a certain direction, just that I want my own dream that isn't  
canned into the cliche'd 2012 HTML5 hype.

Mike


Quoting Carlos Rovira <carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com>:

> Hi Michael,
>
> could you explain a bit more?. Your idea is about make XML layout for
> Android based on Falcon?. I don't know to much about native android
> development but this does not exit yet?
>
> btw, a coworker showed me latest version of JavaFX and I think it would be
> a good idea for all of us here to see this new version since I think it's
> very promising. I saw many things copied from flex (skins, skinparts, xml
> layout declaration, netbeans desing view editor,...). If JavaFx is as good
> as it seems to be, I think it could be a decent competitor, taking into
> account that thinks like eclipse, maven and other industrial tools work
> like a charm in java.
>
>
>
> 2012/11/14 Gordon Smith <gosmith@adobe.com>
>
>> > MXML -> Java Android UI like View and ViewGroup.
>>
>> Interesting idea!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Schmalle [mailto:apache@teotigraphix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:07 PM
>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: [FALCON] It starts with an idea
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I just wanted to state this in a new thread so others might know my
>> intentions as a committer for the time being. Some of you might have
>> noticed I am quite interested in the compiler and plan on donating a lot of
>> my time to it helping Gordon out with tests and trying to get the community
>> involved by documenting some of the more obscure features.
>>
>> One thing I want to note;
>>
>> At this point in time in my life I really don't care about Javascript.
>> Really, I don't and it's never going to be a badge on my backpack of life.
>>
>> That being said, I see my contribution in the project a process of joy and
>> invention. Just writing something to Gordon a second ago I realized what
>> that is. The only way I can continue is if I have a goal. That goal is
>> realized by the fact I program Java android and do extensive UI stuff with
>> music applications I have coming up in the next 2 years using a Java C++
>> toolkit I have been working on the last
>> 10 months.
>>
>> What does this mean? MXML -> Java Android UI like View and ViewGroup.
>> Man I have no idea how the hell I could do it but I know I want to and am
>> going to try.
>>
>> Getting into the MXML compiler the last couple days reminded me of the
>> diamond in the haystack we have.
>>
>> Anyway, more thoughts to come, this was a off the cuff ramble.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
>> http://www.teotigraphix.com
>> http://blog.teotigraphix.com
>>
>>
>
>
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