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From Antonio Ortiz <zenk...@hotmail.com>
Subject RE: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in Flashplayer 12?
Date Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:25:43 GMT
I do, if not, I'm not be here... :D

> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:23:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in Flashplayer 12?
> From: erik@ixsoftware.nl
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> 
> Sebastien,
> 
> You write: "For me it's a framework for RIA, with descriptive language for
> UI, giving the possibility to have one code base and many platform
> targets."
> 
> I'm not disagreeing, but that description is so generic that any number of
> frameworks/languages fit. Let me ask it another way: why are you using Flex
> at the moment? What makes Flex your tool of choice?
> 
> EdB
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:36 PM, sébastien Paturel
> <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > If the question was adressed to me :)
> > Then i already answered it several times in the mailing list.
> > And i'd like to have your answer to this question too.
> >
> > Thats why i launched the "what is the essence of flex" thread. But i was
> > dissapointed to not get more answers, especially from commiters.
> >
> > I shared my humble opinion on this subject here:
> > http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-flex-**
> > dev/201211.mbox/%3C50A55DE7.**608@gmail.com%3E<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-flex-dev/201211.mbox/%3C50A55DE7.608@gmail.com%3E>
> >
> > Feel free to disagree :)
> >
> > Le 16/11/2012 14:30, Erik de Bruin a écrit :
> >
> >  Let me ask you this first: what, in your opinion, is Flex?
> >>
> >> EdB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM, sébastien Paturel
> >> <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>  With that logic, why flex in AS4, or flex in Haxe or whatever not AS3,
> >>> would make it not to be Flex anymore?
> >>>
> >>> I understand the point about the large existing code base in AS3 and the
> >>> need to port to another language.
> >>> But when Adobe chose to change from AS2 to AS3 a lot of people ported
> >>> their code, because it was required.
> >>> When Adobe changed to Spark, it also needed some rewrite to be able to
> >>> gain on new capabilities.
> >>> And if we start a rewrite from scratch, it will be hard to keep
> >>> everything
> >>> even in AS3 usable as is or am i wrong?
> >>> And if people want to use flex for cross platform, and especially HTML5,
> >>> you saif yourself that if we wanted to be able to get existing flex apps
> >>> and compile them directly to HTML5 was a dream.
> >>> Meaning that if people want to gain from new flex capabilities, it will
> >>> be
> >>> with new project code, whether it is AS3 or something else.
> >>>
> >>> The questions are:
> >>> - Do we have efficient solutions to keep AS3 and be able to cross compile
> >>> to every platforms swf, HTML5, native iOS and native Android?
> >>> For example using Haxe gives a lot of advantages in that regard because
> >>> theres already a lot of work done for cross platform port and efficiency,
> >>> and theres a large community around it.
> >>> The essence of flex is more to be cross platform, than it is AS3 right?
> >>> so
> >>> if we don't have efficient solution to cross compile AS3 to platforms
> >>> other
> >>> than Adobe runtimes, its a matter of life and death choice:
> >>> do we prefer keep it in AS3 to keep the existing third party code base,
> >>> or
> >>> do we want to survive with new language and stay cross platform but
> >>> require
> >>> some rewrites.
> >>>
> >>> - Do we want flex to be tight to an abandonned language as AS3? It is
> >>> like
> >>> if you were trying to keep an AS2 framework in an AS3 world.
> >>>
> >>> - Don't we want Apache flex to be as free as possible and get rid of
> >>> Adobe
> >>> technology dependency, meaning AS, flash player, and AIR?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Le 15/11/2012 22:26, Alex Harui a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  On 11/15/12 12:24 PM, "sébastien Paturel" <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>   So it means that Flex in AS2 was not flex?
> >>>> It was then, but now now.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Le 15/11/2012 20:50, Alex Harui a écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  On 11/15/12 11:44 AM, "sébastien Paturel" <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   Why do you thing that using AS4 is the better choice?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It brings me back to the thread (what is the essence of
Flex?) In my
> >>>>>>> opinion, flex is not tight to actionscript.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  IMO, Flex is AS3.  My assumption is that there are large
bodies of
> >>>>>> AS
> >>>>>> business logic that folks are not wanting to port to something
else.
> >>>>>>  Of
> >>>>>> course, that assumption could be incorrect.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> >
> 
> 
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