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From Hordur Thordarson <hor...@lausn.is>
Subject Re: [POLL] - Must Flex 5 be a complete rewrite or can flex code base be re-architectured?
Date Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:03:14 GMT
> They could do a 180 on their
> views of AIR next November. Then what?

Well, then I'd be buggered for sure, that's the risk :-)

> This view is a little narrow minded. I would say apps like Gmail are pretty
> data-rich, and it runs great

Unfortunately the resources required to write and maintain a JS app like Gmail are not available
to most of us.  And to be clear, I do write lots of JS code so I am not totally ignorant on
the subejct.  And for all the effort that Google pours into Gmail, I think it could be done
much better with much less effort with Flex :-)

On 16.11.2012, at 16:39, Omar Gonzalez wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Hordur Thordarson <hordur@lausn.is> wrote:
> 
>> Well, I got the feeling that some users on this list were advocating a
>> total rewrite asap rather than maintaining and improving the current
>> codebase.  A new Flex framework, built in Haxe or some other language than
>> AS3/MXML is a totally new framework that will have no support for the
>> current codebase, which means I'm either stuck with the current technology
>> or I have to rewrite all my stuff and unfortunately rewrites
>> just-for-the-fun-of-it are hard to sell to clients.
>> 
>> I agree that the strategy should be maintain and enhance the current
>> framework while planning/preparing for the future.
>> 
>> Yes, unfortunately Steve Jobs managed to kill Flash in mobile browsers
>> (ok, other things contributed as well :-), so I can't deploy to Flash
>> player in mobile browsers, but AIR is a perfectly usable solution to that
>> problem so I can easily deploy to an app for Android/iOS with the same code
>> base.
>> 
> 
> Yes, rewrites just for the fun of it are impracticable, but betting on the
> long term future of Flex as a multi-platform technology on a closed source
> runtime such as Adobe AIR is a huge gamble. They could do a 180 on their
> views of AIR next November. Then what?
> 
> 
>> 
>>> "writing yet another Gui framework on top of HTML/JS/CSS"
>>> Noone is proposing such a thing.
>>> Flex needs to be cross platform and with OOP language.
>> 
>> I didn't mean that a new Flex would be written IN Html/Js/Css.  But some
>> see the solution to the Adobe VM dependency being to deploy to Html/Js/Css,
>> generated by Haxe or some other tool.  I don't, not because there is
>> anything wrong with Haxe or whatever other tool would be used, but simply
>> because HTML5 still has years to go before it can support the data-rich
>> apps that Flex in Flash player/AIR excels at, and that can't be fixed at
>> the compiler level because in the end you just get Html/Js/Css that the
>> browser executes, with all the plusses and minuses that come with that
>> technology stack.
>> 
>> 
> This view is a little narrow minded. I would say apps like Gmail are pretty
> data-rich, and it runs great. I don't believe that HTML5 needs years before
> it is viable for data-rich applications, that is happening now. Granted
> there are technical capabilities that are yet to arrive in HTML5, but I
> don't expect it to be years before its completely caught up with Flash
> Player's capabilities that are commonly exploited in Flash/Flex
> applications. To put off looking at targeting HTML/JS/CSS would be a bad
> mistake for this framework, in my humble opinion.
> 
> -omar


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