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From Maxime Cowez <>
Subject Re: Flex 5 in haxe
Date Sat, 17 Nov 2012 11:32:14 GMT
>  Are developers on this list still able to earn a living building new
Flex apps, or are you maintaining old ones?

I was actually hired 9 months ago by my current company to set up a new
Flex development branch, as they wanted a share of the market in that area.
As such I am mainly creating new "enterprise" apps for government clients
so I can take full advantage of Spark and don't have to worry about legacy
too much. From my experience in that short amount of time I can tell you
this: we started by creating small(-ish), fairly risc-free projects, which
we could deliver with very good quality and on time even though on a tight
deadline. Because of Flex's RAD (rapid application development)
possibilities we were able to use prototypes to discuss functionality early
in the development process. All of which lead to very satisfied customers,
of which some were known to be "clients from hell". Bigger orders are
rolling in as we speak.

I'd like to highlight one specific approach we took in selling Flex: a
customer wanted us specifically to use Dojo as a technology. We took the
risk to develop a small prototype in Flex and presented it to them. They
saw immediately that the UX was far superior to what they were used to. And
we told them we could *perhaps* deliver the same with Dojo, but it would
cost them at least twice as much (which is a true estimate - not just for
selling purposes - and we had just proven by delivering the prototype in no
time). They did not have to think very long about it...

We've been trying out various enterprise-level HMTL5/JS frameworks and the
truth is, none of them comes even close to what Flex can do in terms of
stability, possibilities, performance and most importantly (for the
customer) development time. And yes I've included performance in that list:
none of those enterprise-level frameworks have decent performance compared
to Flex when presenting lots of data; I'm only speaking of classic
web-applications here.

@paul There's a team not far from my desk that's making a GIS application
with GWT: the project is a total mess and we're loosing money on it.

To sum it up: from my experience Flex as it is now still can be sold in
markets that are not too sensitive to buzzwords.

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Paul Hastings <>wrote:

> Are developers on this list still able to earn a living building new Flex
>>> apps, or are you maintaining old ones?
> in our neck of the woods flex is still kind of king for old school GIS
> applications (analytical/decision support/etc.) especially w/ESRI backends.
> mainly for desktops & some stripped down functionality for tablets--much of
> the processing is shared between client & backends.
> while i'm sure there are some big/complex JS/JTML5 apps for this market
> somewhere, haven't actually seen any.

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