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From Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
Subject Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in Flashplayer 12?
Date Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:49:50 GMT
Yes Nick,

my propossal could be started by one people, but only to attract community
eyes and get more people involved. The problem here's as you say that is a
"long road", very long..., but for me is the only way to make Flex as the
preferred choice.

Regarding the actual code: I think it will end entering maintenance mode
since the new flex will be simply another code base...


2012/11/15 Nick Tsitlakidis <nickt@perfectedz.com>

> Carlos is suggesting a very nice way to solve all problems. But my opinion
> is that a total rewrite needs A LOT of time and planning and at this the
> most active people in the list are too few to handle something like this
> and the others (less active) are just getting their feet wet.
>
> I think there is a long road and community engagement to reach a level
> where a total rewrite in another version of AS can happen.
>
> So the question is what happens with the current codebase while the project
> advances to reach that level.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Jesus Barquin <yukatan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I agree with Carlos.
> >
> >
> > 2012/11/15 Antonio Ortiz <zenkai_@hotmail.com>
> >
> > > I agree with Carlos rovira.
> > > That will be the best way to keep flex alive and better
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:42:46 +0100
> > > > Subject: Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in
> > > Flashplayer 12?
> > > > From: carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com
> > > > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > >
> > > > I think that in the end a total rewrite should be done and better to
> do
> > > it
> > > > directly in AS4. As I said some weeks ago my wishes for this project
> > > would
> > > > be to get:
> > > >
> > > > * SWF and HTML/JS output. (this will make traction since people going
> > to
> > > > HTML/JS are suffering the lack of OOP).
> > > > * For SWF, build on top of Stage3D / Workers.
> > > >
> > > > Start Flex from scratch would bring all things that are make flex a
> > > killer
> > > > platform and remove all deprecated and legacy coming from Flash MX
> > days.
> > > > This should simplify Flex comparing with what we have today.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2012/11/15 Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicholas@spoon.as>
> > > >
> > > > > It's hard to discern what AS4 will really include.  I've only been
> > > piecing
> > > > > some of the info together from various chats and blog posts from
> some
> > > of
> > > > > the FP team members.  Porting Flex to AS4 would most likely be even
> > > harder
> > > > > than it would have been for Stage3D...
> > > > >
> > > > > -Nick
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > >Starling won't be compatible with it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Interesting, I was not aware about this fact. In my mind the
> first
> > > > > > important task for Flex 5 would be to move to Starling +
> > Stage3D...in
> > > > > case
> > > > > > this could be done, it should be revisited again to go
> > AS4+AVMNext...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2012/11/15 Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicholas@spoon.as>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sebastian,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From what Adobe has told publicly, the new AVM (AVM3 /
AS4)
> will
> > be
> > > > > very
> > > > > > > different from AVM2/AS3.  No display lists, uses "Stage3D"
for
> > > > > > everything,
> > > > > > > etc.  They haven't said anything more other than Starling
won't
> > be
> > > > > > > compatible with it -- there may be a new version created,
but
> > > since AS4
> > > > > > > will be different people will have to re-write large portions
> of
> > > code
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > use it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Nick
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Sebastian Mohr <
> > > > > flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does anyone have any insides of the new AVM of the
> forthcoming
> > > > > > > > Flashplayer 12 in 2013? Are there any APIs (e.g.
> specification
> > > > > > documents)
> > > > > > > > that Adobe is willing to share? Is Starling [1] the
only hook
> > we
> > > can
> > > > > > get?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sincerely Yours,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sebastian Mohr
> > > > > > > > Apache Flex Developer (PPMC),
> > > > > > > > Interaction Designer & Musician
> > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/masuland
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1] http://gamua.com/starling/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > Director de Tecnología
> > > > > > M: +34 607 22 60 05
> > > > > > F:  +34 912 35 57 77
> > > > > > http://www.codeoscopic.com
> > > > > > http://www.directwriter.es
> > > > > > http://www.avant2.es
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > Director de Tecnología
> > > > M: +34 607 22 60 05
> > > > F:  +34 912 35 57 77
> > > > http://www.codeoscopic.com
> > > > http://www.directwriter.es
> > > > http://www.avant2.es
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Nick Tsitlakidis,
>
> CEO and Software Architect at Perfect Edge LTD.
> www.perfectedz.com
>



-- 
Carlos Rovira
Director de Tecnología
M: +34 607 22 60 05
F:  +34 912 35 57 77
http://www.codeoscopic.com
http://www.directwriter.es
http://www.avant2.es

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