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From Joan Llenas Masó <j...@garnetworks.com>
Subject Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in Flashplayer 12?
Date Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:55:20 GMT
Flex to me is:
1. Cross browser/platform
2. MXML.
3. Modularity
4. Spark architecture

Aside from the rich UI library, I think that those 4 dots make Flex unique.
If we port that to any other language it'll still be Flex to me.

J



On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Erik de Bruin <erik@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:

> Let me ask you this first: what, in your opinion, is Flex?
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM, sébastien Paturel
> <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > With that logic, why flex in AS4, or flex in Haxe or whatever not AS3,
> > would make it not to be Flex anymore?
> >
> > I understand the point about the large existing code base in AS3 and the
> > need to port to another language.
> > But when Adobe chose to change from AS2 to AS3 a lot of people ported
> > their code, because it was required.
> > When Adobe changed to Spark, it also needed some rewrite to be able to
> > gain on new capabilities.
> > And if we start a rewrite from scratch, it will be hard to keep
> everything
> > even in AS3 usable as is or am i wrong?
> > And if people want to use flex for cross platform, and especially HTML5,
> > you saif yourself that if we wanted to be able to get existing flex apps
> > and compile them directly to HTML5 was a dream.
> > Meaning that if people want to gain from new flex capabilities, it will
> be
> > with new project code, whether it is AS3 or something else.
> >
> > The questions are:
> > - Do we have efficient solutions to keep AS3 and be able to cross compile
> > to every platforms swf, HTML5, native iOS and native Android?
> > For example using Haxe gives a lot of advantages in that regard because
> > theres already a lot of work done for cross platform port and efficiency,
> > and theres a large community around it.
> > The essence of flex is more to be cross platform, than it is AS3 right?
> so
> > if we don't have efficient solution to cross compile AS3 to platforms
> other
> > than Adobe runtimes, its a matter of life and death choice:
> > do we prefer keep it in AS3 to keep the existing third party code base,
> or
> > do we want to survive with new language and stay cross platform but
> require
> > some rewrites.
> >
> > - Do we want flex to be tight to an abandonned language as AS3? It is
> like
> > if you were trying to keep an AS2 framework in an AS3 world.
> >
> > - Don't we want Apache flex to be as free as possible and get rid of
> Adobe
> > technology dependency, meaning AS, flash player, and AIR?
> >
> >
> > Le 15/11/2012 22:26, Alex Harui a écrit :
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On 11/15/12 12:24 PM, "sébastien Paturel" <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>  So it means that Flex in AS2 was not flex?
> >>>
> >> It was then, but now now.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Le 15/11/2012 20:50, Alex Harui a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/15/12 11:44 AM, "sébastien Paturel" <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  Why do you thing that using AS4 is the better choice?
> >>>>> It brings me back to the thread (what is the essence of Flex?) In
my
> >>>>> opinion, flex is not tight to actionscript.
> >>>>>
> >>>> IMO, Flex is AS3.  My assumption is that there are large bodies of AS
> >>>> business logic that folks are not wanting to port to something else.
>  Of
> >>>> course, that assumption could be incorrect.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
>
>
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>
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>
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