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From Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
Subject Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in Flashplayer 12?
Date Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:30:16 GMT
Let me ask you this first: what, in your opinion, is Flex?

EdB



On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM, sébastien Paturel
<sebpatu.flex@gmail.com>wrote:

> With that logic, why flex in AS4, or flex in Haxe or whatever not AS3,
> would make it not to be Flex anymore?
>
> I understand the point about the large existing code base in AS3 and the
> need to port to another language.
> But when Adobe chose to change from AS2 to AS3 a lot of people ported
> their code, because it was required.
> When Adobe changed to Spark, it also needed some rewrite to be able to
> gain on new capabilities.
> And if we start a rewrite from scratch, it will be hard to keep everything
> even in AS3 usable as is or am i wrong?
> And if people want to use flex for cross platform, and especially HTML5,
> you saif yourself that if we wanted to be able to get existing flex apps
> and compile them directly to HTML5 was a dream.
> Meaning that if people want to gain from new flex capabilities, it will be
> with new project code, whether it is AS3 or something else.
>
> The questions are:
> - Do we have efficient solutions to keep AS3 and be able to cross compile
> to every platforms swf, HTML5, native iOS and native Android?
> For example using Haxe gives a lot of advantages in that regard because
> theres already a lot of work done for cross platform port and efficiency,
> and theres a large community around it.
> The essence of flex is more to be cross platform, than it is AS3 right? so
> if we don't have efficient solution to cross compile AS3 to platforms other
> than Adobe runtimes, its a matter of life and death choice:
> do we prefer keep it in AS3 to keep the existing third party code base, or
> do we want to survive with new language and stay cross platform but require
> some rewrites.
>
> - Do we want flex to be tight to an abandonned language as AS3? It is like
> if you were trying to keep an AS2 framework in an AS3 world.
>
> - Don't we want Apache flex to be as free as possible and get rid of Adobe
> technology dependency, meaning AS, flash player, and AIR?
>
>
> Le 15/11/2012 22:26, Alex Harui a écrit :
>
>
>>
>> On 11/15/12 12:24 PM, "sébastien Paturel" <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  So it means that Flex in AS2 was not flex?
>>>
>> It was then, but now now.
>>
>>>
>>> Le 15/11/2012 20:50, Alex Harui a écrit :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/15/12 11:44 AM, "sébastien Paturel" <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Why do you thing that using AS4 is the better choice?
>>>>> It brings me back to the thread (what is the essence of Flex?) In my
>>>>> opinion, flex is not tight to actionscript.
>>>>>
>>>> IMO, Flex is AS3.  My assumption is that there are large bodies of AS
>>>> business logic that folks are not wanting to port to something else.  Of
>>>> course, that assumption could be incorrect.
>>>>
>>>>
>


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