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From Omar Gonzalez <>
Subject Re: Flex 5 in haxe
Date Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:45:13 GMT
I'm not willing to bet on plugin architecture or that Firefox won't solve
their video encoder issues sometime soon. And I am not willing to ride on
the coat tails o the gaming industry either. Have you seen the hits Zynga
is taking on their stock? Games are a dime a dozen and so are the platforms
to make them. I don't see a viable long term future for the Flash Player
plugin in such a competitive field.

On Saturday, November 17, 2012, Hordur Thordarson wrote:

> Yeah well Firefox is in a hole re the Flash plugin because they need it
> for video playback (H264) which btw is driving a lot of web usage these
> days.
> I haven't been following the dev of the Chrome pepper stuff so I can't
> comment on that.  I do use Flash in Chrome a lot though and haven't had any
> major problems.  But YMMV as always.
> As for the plugin architecture in the browser, it is allready mostly gone
> from mobile browsers, but I don't think it will dissappear from desktop
> browsers any time soon because there are still a lot of things the Flash
> plugin can do that the browsers can't and there is also an enormous amount
> of software out there that requres the Flash plugin and developers like are
> still adding more, just look at the activity in Flash based games running
> in the browser (Zynga, Rovio and a bunch of others are still happily
> churning out Flash based games).
> On 17.11.2012, at 16:34, Omar Gonzalez wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 17, 2012, Hordur Thordarson wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >> But maybe I'm reading all this wrong or maybe I'm believing too much
> what
> >> I think I'm reading or maybe the people here advocating a HTML/JS
> strategy
> >> for Flex have been burned more by Adobe than I have.
> >>
> >>
> > Bingo!
> >
> > Also, Adobe can say whatever they want about their plans for Flash Player
> > plugins. The truth is Firefox has at one point stated, from one of their
> > VPs, that they would love to just not have a plugin architecture at all
> and
> > basically tell Flash to go F itself. Microsoft tried that with Metro and
> > they got some backlash so they put it back in 'desktop' mode. Then we
> have
> > the Chrome pepper API, wow, wht a mess. It gets buggier and buggier with
> > time. What does this all say to me?  Plugin architecture has its days
> > numbered. You can shove your head in the sand and choose to ignore the
> > writing on the wall or you can start to strategize for a life without
> Flash
> > Player plugin. I choose to be prepared. Whether HTML5 is ready or not and
> > whether its more efficient to develop in or not that is where the
> industry
> > is heading.
> >
> > -omar

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