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From Nick Tsitlakidis <ni...@perfectedz.com>
Subject Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in Flashplayer 12?
Date Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:32:14 GMT
Carlos is suggesting a very nice way to solve all problems. But my opinion
is that a total rewrite needs A LOT of time and planning and at this the
most active people in the list are too few to handle something like this
and the others (less active) are just getting their feet wet.

I think there is a long road and community engagement to reach a level
where a total rewrite in another version of AS can happen.

So the question is what happens with the current codebase while the project
advances to reach that level.


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Jesus Barquin <yukatan@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Carlos.
>
>
> 2012/11/15 Antonio Ortiz <zenkai_@hotmail.com>
>
> > I agree with Carlos rovira.
> > That will be the best way to keep flex alive and better
> >
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:42:46 +0100
> > > Subject: Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in
> > Flashplayer 12?
> > > From: carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com
> > > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >
> > > I think that in the end a total rewrite should be done and better to do
> > it
> > > directly in AS4. As I said some weeks ago my wishes for this project
> > would
> > > be to get:
> > >
> > > * SWF and HTML/JS output. (this will make traction since people going
> to
> > > HTML/JS are suffering the lack of OOP).
> > > * For SWF, build on top of Stage3D / Workers.
> > >
> > > Start Flex from scratch would bring all things that are make flex a
> > killer
> > > platform and remove all deprecated and legacy coming from Flash MX
> days.
> > > This should simplify Flex comparing with what we have today.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/11/15 Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicholas@spoon.as>
> > >
> > > > It's hard to discern what AS4 will really include.  I've only been
> > piecing
> > > > some of the info together from various chats and blog posts from some
> > of
> > > > the FP team members.  Porting Flex to AS4 would most likely be even
> > harder
> > > > than it would have been for Stage3D...
> > > >
> > > > -Nick
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >Starling won't be compatible with it
> > > > >
> > > > > Interesting, I was not aware about this fact. In my mind the first
> > > > > important task for Flex 5 would be to move to Starling +
> Stage3D...in
> > > > case
> > > > > this could be done, it should be revisited again to go
> AS4+AVMNext...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2012/11/15 Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicholas@spoon.as>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sebastian,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From what Adobe has told publicly, the new AVM (AVM3 / AS4)
will
> be
> > > > very
> > > > > > different from AVM2/AS3.  No display lists, uses "Stage3D" for
> > > > > everything,
> > > > > > etc.  They haven't said anything more other than Starling won't
> be
> > > > > > compatible with it -- there may be a new version created, but
> > since AS4
> > > > > > will be different people will have to re-write large portions
of
> > code
> > > > to
> > > > > > use it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Nick
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Sebastian Mohr <
> > > > flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone have any insides of the new AVM of the forthcoming
> > > > > > > Flashplayer 12 in 2013? Are there any APIs (e.g. specification
> > > > > documents)
> > > > > > > that Adobe is willing to share? Is Starling [1] the only
hook
> we
> > can
> > > > > get?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sincerely Yours,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sebastian Mohr
> > > > > > > Apache Flex Developer (PPMC),
> > > > > > > Interaction Designer & Musician
> > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/masuland
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] http://gamua.com/starling/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > Director de TecnologĂ­a
> > > > > M: +34 607 22 60 05
> > > > > F:  +34 912 35 57 77
> > > > > http://www.codeoscopic.com
> > > > > http://www.directwriter.es
> > > > > http://www.avant2.es
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > Director de TecnologĂ­a
> > > M: +34 607 22 60 05
> > > F:  +34 912 35 57 77
> > > http://www.codeoscopic.com
> > > http://www.directwriter.es
> > > http://www.avant2.es
> >
> >
>



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Nick Tsitlakidis,

CEO and Software Architect at Perfect Edge LTD.
www.perfectedz.com

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