Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66FB4DB2E for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 23:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 53868 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2012 23:15:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 53835 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2012 23:15:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 53824 invoked by uid 99); 18 Oct 2012 23:15:47 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 23:15:47 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of omuppi1@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.217.175] (HELO mail-lb0-f175.google.com) (209.85.217.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 23:15:40 +0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id y2so5903854lbk.6 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:15:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=5rjgjQEkhdBjLETxnoYlM5IGycF4UnVtQvCoV1TJea4=; b=t5cjJKBKSVi5JeYVX2Z9j7hqhCwChnkhdNxE07rguiHEC+E/ldFgyauNrGpVFx4Buu OKEIa7G3nRg5NiGIvGdJQwcGo0X3hD2elKWskRWiTCrcmkbZTCvpPyd0tlxk8h5xsGas X+Q6UKJdPuKK61HWPxUyJ83/iJdNWv4cntdEBCBafK5+hd07Ebv64wjSgT84c3gJyjf4 sExHvWeNYGtttsy1Q0D4CGICcbpmo9w+IKLEtxu0bm5AGwae443ywbu7mq6XK/fSazTi hJ93sQXCJsx5Iiqb6Kraz4/yo1fnqbnxUpyMb9/2Ex2mC/lisq/SL4UIMVdBiASvSnwJ mxFg== Received: by 10.152.124.83 with SMTP id mg19mr19788037lab.6.1350602120412; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:15:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: omuppi1@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.74.129 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:14:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Om Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:14:49 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: j6XcJsCbLMFNLjdoq0Ln106t8m8 Message-ID: Subject: To AS4 or not (was: Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon) To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042dfc959ebc9804cc5d8f87 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --f46d042dfc959ebc9804cc5d8f87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Quoting "Michael A. Labriola" **: > > How exactly would a company using Flex start using the new VM if it does >>> not support Flex? As long as they use Flex, they would still be using AVM2. >>> >> >> What I mean is that Flash Player's popularity and install base is what >> made it viable for Flex to be written and deployed to it. If the new VM is >> also so universally well received, so popular, and installed everywhere >> that enterprises actively wish to repurpose it for applications, then I >> will be first in line to rewrite Flex. >> >> Mike >> >> > > Which I think we all know what this is alluding to, from this point on, > the Flash Player will be known for Games, what business is going to make an > enterprise app on a gaming vm... > > Even around AVM1 time, Flash Player was mostly known for games, intro sites and splash screens. That dint prevent me or several others companies from pushing Flash Player and build shipping enterprise applications. > Which means, Flex will never exist in AS4, I agree with Mike completely > here. > I dont quite get the pessimism here. I am in fact glad that Adobe stopped working on Flex and is concentrating more on the Virtual Machine and AS language enhancements. Isnt that what we all wanted? > > This is been my argument that eventually Apache Flex needs to diversify > somehow. > > PS I don't think Apache Flex needs to stand for what Flex is today though, > and this is where innovation in the future needs to happen in this project. > > > Mike > > > -- > Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC > http://www.teotigraphix.com > http://blog.teotigraphix.com > > --f46d042dfc959ebc9804cc5d8f87--