Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4404ED32C for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 43887 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2012 16:33:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 43845 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2012 16:33:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 43836 invoked by uid 99); 2 Oct 2012 16:33:13 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:33:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FRT_ADOBE2,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [46.175.48.176] (HELO outbound4.messagestream.com) (46.175.48.176) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:33:04 +0000 Received: from Gia-Exch11.MessageExchange.com ([46.175.48.177]) by outbound4.messagestream.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:32:36 +0100 Received: from GIA-EXCH01A.MessageExchange.com ([169.254.2.89]) by Gia-Exch11.MessageExchange.com ([169.254.1.198]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:32:20 +0100 From: Stakesoft To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Subject: RE: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools Thread-Topic: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools Thread-Index: AQHNoId3a595mS5fFUCKejjtqMfQM5elxFMAgAABz4CAADEbAIAABxIAgAAcsICAAARhgIAAEx+Q Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:32:19 +0000 Message-ID: References: <58806CB1-1D6A-4615-90EA-015D8650AFB6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [46.175.48.196] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Technical issues aside I suspect there a good few of us that rely on design= views (and we are not all noobs). Many are supporting not having a DV as t= hey don't use it and that's fine for them but a bit of a disaster for other= s. There are IDE's with DV's and those without - the best in my mind all ha= ve a DV. If Adobe are not taking care of the SDK or the DV it leaves much less advan= tage over other free software. Non DV developers at Adobe please try and understand how important a DV is = to the many who use it. I wish 4.7 onwards all the best but it will just ab= out unusable for me. Nigel -----Original Message----- From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]=20 Sent: 02 October 2012 17:12 To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools On 10/2/12 8:55 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" wrote: >=20 > @Adobe ... what's wrong with continuing building GUI > designer tools for Apache Flex? Is that really something > that is not worth investing into? You already created those > tools. So, why not sharing some of your expertise with the > community, and, not locking your code in the archives of > Adobe history? >=20 This has been discussed before. Design View is highly dependent on a Flex SDK version. It is not practical for Adobe to maintain DV in FB now that SDKs are coming from Apache. I think the DV code is flawed for that reason and some others. It is probably better to simply start over. AFAIK, it is "just" an Eclipse plug-in. =20 If figuring out some aspect of the plug-in turns out to be difficult, I can try to see if there are some pieces we could donate, but the assessment fro= m the owners of the code is that there isn't much that is re-usable. --=20 Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui