From flex-dev-return-13294-apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Thu Oct 18 18:26:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75D88D2D0 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:26:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26313 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2012 18:26:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 26268 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2012 18:26:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 26238 invoked by uid 99); 18 Oct 2012 18:26:29 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:26:29 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of aharui@adobe.com designates 64.18.1.37 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.18.1.37] (HELO exprod6og116.obsmtp.com) (64.18.1.37) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:26:23 +0000 Received: from outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com ([193.104.215.16]) by exprod6ob116.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUIBJukTD8xwS8Acs1e0Q909bYe4kJMWJ@postini.com; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:26:03 PDT Received: from inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (inner-relay-4b [10.128.4.237]) by outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q9IIQ1Kd021870 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nacas03.corp.adobe.com (nacas03.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.121]) by inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id q9IIPRXT008845 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NAMBX02.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.127.96]) by nacas03.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.121]) with mapi; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:25:39 -0700 From: Alex Harui To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:25:37 -0700 Subject: Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon Thread-Topic: ASC 2.0 and Falcon Thread-Index: Ac2tUB830RmPvbuQTvSrOeEDVUHSAAADdjox Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/13.13.0.120411 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I am more than happy to work on Falcon. I spent some time in the MXML handling just before the "announcement". IMO, you don't have to know compiler theory to contribute to Falcon. That part has pretty much been taken care of. It is now a matter of fixing bugs and getting the MXML transcoding to work. But I want to make sure I'm working on the most important things, and folks have different opinions on importance. Top on my list is the FalconJS donation. Then Maven, then some remaining mustella stuff, then another release of bug fixes and small features, then graduation to top-level project, then Falcon MXML handling. The first two involve lots of waiting for meetings and reviews and others to respond, so I am getting a few mustella things done then will fix some bugs. So I don't see myself workin= g on Falcon for a bit longer, but I can be convinced otherwise. I'm going to be at 360Min so if you are going to be there, you can try to convince me in person. Regarding tests for Falcon, I don't know what it will take to get the tests donated, but if we get more MXML handling working in Falcon instead (which is under the control of this community), we can run Falcon against the full mustella suite and find failures that way, and then mustella can serve as another validation suite for changes to Falcon. Sure, not as good as havin= g unit tests, but given constraints on Gordon's time, this might be a more productive choice. On 10/18/12 9:45 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > Hey, amazing! Two whole worthwhile discussions in one day... and one > is even about compilers ;-) >=20 > People are working together, helping each other along. Keep the ball > rolling; we have lift off! >=20 > EdB >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Michael Schmalle > wrote: >> Wow I totally missed that. >>=20 >> I can't believe I missed that, I feel like an idiot. :) >>=20 >> I'm saying that I am not the one that knows how to get this in the build >> etc, I know nothing about that stuff but I will see what I can do. >>=20 >> Mike >>=20 >>=20 >> Quoting Omar Gonzalez : >>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Gordon mentioned he was getting tests setup for the framework, I have >>>> been >>>> waiting, I'm not doing anything until there is at least a consensus >>>> between >>>> members of this project on how to do that. But wait, there are no memb= ers >>>> of the project that are even involved with the compiler right now that= I >>>> am >>>> aware of? >>>>=20 >>>> Anybody out there... ? >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Oh hey, look! Its unit tests -> >>>=20 >>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/flex/falcon/trunk/compiler.tests= /unit >>> -tests/org/apache/flex/compiler/internal/parsing/mxml/MXMLTokenizerTest= s.jav >>> a?revision=3D1391636&view=3Dmarkup >>>=20 >>> Not much, and poorly written, but there is one there, so the ball has b= een >>> pushed. Now it just needs to get rolling. ;) >>>=20 >>> -omar >>>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC >> http://www.teotigraphix.com >> http://blog.teotigraphix.com >>=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui