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From Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
Subject Re: Any news about FalconJS donation? (was: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App))
Date Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:27:49 GMT
FalconJS is not under development.  A prototype was built several months
ago, but no serious work has been done on it since.  I should be able to
start on its legal review next week.


On 10/5/12 7:06 AM, "filippo dipisa" <filippo@dipisa.net> wrote:

> FOr what I understand falco js is still under development and there is just
> one resource on it so don't hope on it.
> Please correct me if I am wrong.
> Here there is a good solution if you want  to use as to create js apps
> 
> http://www.jangaroo.net/home/
> 
> 
> 
> On 5 October 2012 14:53, sébastien Paturel <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Following the HTML5 targetting discussion
>> is there any news about the FalconJS donation, as we now have Falcon
>> donated, it shoudl be next?
>> 
>> 
>> Le 05/10/2012 15:46, Charles Monteiro a écrit :
>> 
>>> I'm wondering if most in this group are more interested about targeting
>>> html5 than air because it seems to me it would be hard to do both well.
>>> 
>>> I want to run on AIR.
>>>   On Oct 5, 2012 9:38 AM, "sébastien Paturel" <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I agree with others that you should abandone the idea that Adobe could
>>>> get
>>>> Catalyst back from the dead.
>>>> They have been pretty clear about it, and the open sourcing is not an
>>>> option because of code dependencies.
>>>> 
>>>> Your only chance to see catalyst come back from Adobe, is to make Apache
>>>> Flex te best framework for HTML5 runtime!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Le 04/10/2012 00:48, Sebastian Mohr a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>>  @christofer dutz ... thanks for sharing your thoughts. +1 from my side!
>>>>> Flash Catalyst CS5.5 is a charm for interaction designers like me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely Yours,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sebastian Mohr
>>>>> Apache Flex Developer (PPMC),
>>>>> Interaction Designer & Musician
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/****masuland<http://www.linkedin.com/in/**masul
>>>>> and>
>>>>> 
<http://www.linkedin.**com/in/masuland<http://www.linkedin.com/in/masuland>>>>>
>
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 3, 2012, at 7:21 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Well isn't it usually that way around?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I create some general UI scetches using some tools like blamiq mockups
>>>>>> and deal with negoitating the functionallity with my customers. As
>>>>>> soon as
>>>>>> the component works as desired I go "pimp my app" and give it to
a
>>>>>> designer
>>>>>> to have it pimped.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Using Catalyst this was really easy (As soon as you had a desiger
at
>>>>>> hand that was used to it and it's concepts). I was even able to let
the
>>>>>> designer skin a running application deployed by me somewhere on the
>>>>>> web, so
>>>>>> I didn't have give away the code of the application itself or setup
the
>>>>>> environment at the designers office. This workflow was the major
>>>>>> breakthrough for me and was one of the major things that made me
shift
>>>>>> allmost entirely to the Flex road.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's a real pitty to have it dropped and wasted :-(
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>> Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
>>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Oktober 2012 18:18
>>>>>> An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: AW: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design
>>>>>> View
>>>>>> AIR App)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/3/12 7:38 AM, "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <
>>>>>> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   Oh ... let me thow in a little more weight for the Catalyst ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I invested quite some time in setting up a project structure
that
>>>>>>> allowed me to concentrate on developing (Using an ugly but functional
>>>>>>> developer Skin) and having professional Designers use Catalyst
to Skin
>>>>>>> the application.
>>>>>>> Unfortunately it seemed that the designers available on the market
>>>>>>> were all even less "finished" than the Catalyst project, but
as soon
>>>>>>> as the designers got the hang of it, the results were pretty
>>>>>>> sattisfying and I had what I was allways dreaming about: Being
able to
>>>>>>> concentrate on the functionality and have a designer do all the
stuff
>>>>>>> that sells the application (cool buttons, even greater effects
and
>>>>>>> animated transitions, ...) :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would be really happy if Adobe didn't entirely drop this tool,
and
>>>>>>> if they did, If they would somehow open-source it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   It is essentially "dropped".  See [1].   There are no plans
to
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> opensource
>>>>>> it.  It too had a lot of "baggage" that made it difficult to implement.
>>>>>>   For example, it really wasn't extensible as to what components
it
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> handle.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The principle behind it (that you can take designer art and break
it
>>>>>> down into components) is compelling, but I question whether it remains
>>>>>> valid in a world of dynamic UI.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is also interesting to note that you used it in completely different
>>>>>> way than it was intended.  It was for a design-first-then-develop
>>>>>> workflow
>>>>>> and you did it the other way (which is what I do when I have a choice
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> well).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] 
>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/****flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html<http://www.
>>>>>> adobe.com/devnet/**flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html>
>>>>>> <**http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html<http://www
>>>>>> .adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>> 

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


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