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From Joan Llenas Masó <j...@garnetworks.com>
Subject Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools
Date Wed, 03 Oct 2012 08:46:27 GMT
There's an old project called FLEXible that John Grden started some years
ago.
- http://rockonflash.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/flexible-released/
- http://osflash.org/flexible
- http://flexible.riaforge.org/

Maybe that could would be a good starting point. It's Flex2 though. Some
kind of migration will be required.
At least it's worth checking it!

Cheers!



On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Peter Ent <pent@adobe.com> wrote:

> I'm not that familiar with writing eclipse plugins, but does anyone know
> if it is possible to communicate with Eclipse via a socket or some other
> local communications mechanism? If that were possible, an AIR-based DV
> tool could exchange information with eclipse. While not a built-in, part
> of the IDE window, solution, this is might be a good solution.
>
> Peter Ent
>
> On 10/2/12 2:13 PM, "Michael Schmalle" <apache@teotigraphix.com> wrote:
>
> >Quoting Stakesoft <mail@stakesoft.com>:
> >
> >> That's all very well but (DV aside) FB is far better and we are used
> >> to it. It's not very useful to run 2 IDE's alongside otherwise we
> >> could use FB4.6 and FB4.7 nor is it a forward step to use a
> >> different IDE.
> >>
> >> Wanting another IDE to get better just because the Adobe one has
> >> just got worse is sole destroying, as is spending good time and
> >> money on an IDE that's now going to be of little use. I don't want
> >> to get into a rant, I'd rather be constructive.
> >>
> >> Is Apache at least sympathetic towards this, does Adobe care about
> >> this. Is there any hope at all?
> >>
> >> Nigel
> >>
> >
> >Being a committer I can say I totally understand what you are saying
> >about DV. I to am a visual person, although I never used DV that much
> >since I wrote more AS component type things, I can understand how it
> >would be included in design workflow.
> >
> >The problem I see is just what you said, IDE, which one, don't want to
> >switch. Lets say I have the experience to start a project like this.
> >What IDE do I target? IDEA and Eclipse are two large IDEs with a huge
> >difference in plugin API.
> >
> >Bam, I'm already dead in my tracks. Maintaining one code base for one
> >IDE is one thing but to maintain two, yeah right.
> >
> >Wait lets do AIR, oh but 50%+ devs would only use an "IDE Plugin", so
> >then you only get half support for using a half baked AIR
> >implementation.
> >
> >I see no real solution to this. Now lets add the fact we have to
> >incorporate the FlashPlayer in DV, you want dnd, haha that takes the
> >difficulty of coding 5 levels higher.
> >
> >As a developer, I'm sure a lot are not speaking up on this subject
> >because our hands are tied, there is really no answer to this.
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: charles.monteiro@gmail.com [mailto:charles.monteiro@gmail.com]
> >> On Behalf Of Charles Monteiro
> >> Sent: 02 October 2012 18:11
> >> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org; apache-flex@bentbit.com
> >> Subject: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools
> >>
> >> If that's all you need I would again check out Intellij IDEA Flash
> >>design
> >> viewer plugin, that's exactly what it does, it even allows for
> >>configuring
> >> of attributes though selecting the correct entity is buggy, doing a
> >> "preview" is not
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:04 PM, BentBit Apache-Flex
> >><apache-flex@bentbit.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>>         I use design view to "preview" elements of my Flash Builder
> >>> project. Previewing makes the design workflow much faster because I can
> >>> see how the project is going to look. I rarely rely on design view to
> >>>make
> >>> actual changes to my projects because it is slow and unreliable.
> >>>
> >>>         Would it be possible to develop some sort of a preview that
> >>>would
> >>> function for Apache Flex and Adobe Flex? I am not worried about losing
> >>> design view, just the preview capability.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> -Blake
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Stakesoft [mailto:mail@stakesoft.com]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:32 AM
> >>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: RE: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools
> >>>
> >>> Technical issues aside I suspect there a good few of us that rely on
> >>> design views (and we are not all noobs). Many are supporting not
> >>>having a
> >>> DV as they don't use it and that's fine for them but a bit of a
> >>>disaster
> >>> for others. There are IDE's with DV's and those without - the best in
> >>>my
> >>> mind all have a DV.
> >>>
> >>> If Adobe are not taking care of the SDK or the DV it leaves much less
> >>> advantage over other free software.
> >>>
> >>> Non DV developers at Adobe please try and understand how important a
> >>>DV is
> >>> to the many who use it. I wish 4.7 onwards all the best but it will
> >>>just
> >>> about unusable for me.
> >>>
> >>> Nigel
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
> >>> Sent: 02 October 2012 17:12
> >>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 10/2/12 8:55 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" <masuland@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > @Adobe ... what's wrong with continuing building GUI
> >>> > designer tools for Apache Flex? Is that really something
> >>> > that is not worth investing into? You already created those
> >>> > tools. So, why not sharing some of your expertise with the
> >>> > community, and, not locking your code in the archives of
> >>> > Adobe history?
> >>> >
> >>> This has been discussed before.  Design View is highly dependent on a
> >>>Flex
> >>> SDK version.  It is not practical for Adobe to maintain DV in FB now
> >>>that
> >>> SDKs are coming from Apache.
> >>>
> >>> I think the DV code is flawed for that reason and some others.  It is
> >>> probably better to simply start over.  AFAIK, it is "just" an Eclipse
> >>> plug-in.
> >>>
> >>> If figuring out some aspect of the plug-in turns out to be difficult, I
> >>> can
> >>> try to see if there are some pieces we could donate, but the assessment
> >>> from
> >>> the owners of the code is that there isn't much that is re-usable.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Alex Harui
> >>> Flex SDK Team
> >>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Charles A. Monteiro
> >> www.monteirosfusion.com
> >> sent from the road
> >>
> >>
> >
> >--
> >Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
> >http://www.teotigraphix.com
> >http://blog.teotigraphix.com
> >
>
>

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