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From Stakesoft <>
Subject RE: [POLL] tag (was: Re: [VOTE] "The more designer tools exist for Apache Flex, the more attractive Apache Flex becomes")
Date Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:19:32 GMT
+1 DV

Cut my losses and move on - yes quite, I agree this is just futile, we are never going to
be able to dev a DV, it's just a waste of time. I'll cut my losses of over a years' worth
of learning and developing dozens of commercial apps written in flex and move direction to
excel plugin's or fitting kitchens maybe.

To say the rug has been pulled from under my feet and great deal of others feet is a massive
understatement - a lot of us are DESIGNERS and code some stuff behind it to make it work and
be cool. Adobe make design software, no DV to some is fine for some but the others is ridiculous.

This thread exists because we are gutted for the loss of the DV.

Adobe are not looking after the SDK or DV and charging the same for the IDE, very nice for
them - get ready for the backfire! And get ready for FB to descend to the low status of those
other non DV IDE's that nobody uses.

O look the next Dreamweaver has no design view - can you even imagine a more stupid decision.


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Schmalle [] 
Sent: 04 October 2012 14:44
Subject: Re: [POLL] tag (was: Re: [VOTE] "The more designer tools exist for Apache Flex, the
more attractive Apache Flex becomes")

I'm not voting on this but, I understand the tension here, I would bet  
a great deal of money on the effort put into getting Adobe to release  
source code for FC or the Visual Editor of FB is never going to  
happen. Alex in his own way has hinted at this in a couple of emails.

Why this thread even exists is beyond me Sabatian, didn't the thread  
about creating a visual designer that exists and was being talked  
about between 2 involved committers kind of preempt this?

Before anybody goes bashing me, just note I am not putting an ounce of  
hope or thought into FlashCatalyst or FlashBuilder's DesignView  
becoming Apache Flex's design view savior.

In the eternal words of those that don't like to waste time, cut your  
losses and move on.


Quoting Charles Monteiro <>:

> Got it.
> +1
> On Oct 4, 2012 9:30 AM, "Charles Monteiro" <>
> wrote:
>> Sorry how exactly do I cast my vote for this poll ?
>> On Oct 4, 2012 7:22 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" <> wrote:
>>> Thanks Bertrand,
>>> I have added the [POLL] tag to the "Getting Started" - Page
>>> of the Apache Flex wiki. Haven't been mentioned there before ;)
>>> Sincerely Yours,
>>> Sebastian Mohr
>>> Apache Flex Developer (PPMC),
>>> Interaction Designer & Musician
>>> [1]
>>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>>> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Sebastian Mohr <>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> ...Please vote to approve the assumption (in the subject):...
>>> >
>>> > Note that the [VOTE] subject tag is meant for decisions made by a
>>> > project's PMC, in this case a [POLL] would have been more appropriate.
>>> > People who only care about [VOTE]s might complain ;-)
>>> >
>>> > No big deal, just wanted to mention it.
>>> >
>>> > -Bertrand

Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC

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