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From Sebastian Mohr <masul...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools
Date Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:21:07 GMT
Forgot to mention those links about Adobe Brackets [1] [2]. 
So, when seeing this, it seems to be very easy that Adobe 
loves to collaborate with the HTML5 folks. What about an 
open GUI designer tool for Apache Flex?


Sincerely Yours,

Sebastian Mohr
Apache Flex Developer (PPMC),  
Interaction Designer & Musician
http://www.linkedin.com/in/masuland

[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xirIHMtpc4c
[2] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/html5/articles/bracket-code-architecture.html




On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote:

> @Peter Ent ... the missing piece is: Who is working on 
> such a design tool right now? There are Apache Flex 
> designers and developers on this mailing list that see 
> the need to have those tools.
> 
>> You know, if I was actually making some type of money from Flex right now I would
consider this project [...]
> 
> 
> As Michael Schmalle correctly pointed out: There are 
> probably people on this list that are capable of building 
> those GUI designer tools, but, most probably they won't
> have the time and money to work on that.
> 
> @Adobe ... what's wrong with continuing building GUI 
> designer tools for Apache Flex? Is that really something 
> that is not worth investing into? You already created those 
> tools. So, why not sharing some of your expertise with the 
> community, and, not locking your code in the archives of 
> Adobe history?
> 
> I also doubt, that building such Apache Flex GUI designer 
> tools would be hardly manageable by a single person alone. 
> Maybe Adobe could consider to open up some of their GUI 
> designer tool code on Github and collaborate with the 
> Apache Flex community, just like they are doing right 
> now with Adobe Brackets [1] !?
> 
> 
> Sincerely Yours,
> 
> Sebastian Mohr
> Apache Flex Developer (PPMC),  
> Interaction Designer & Musician
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/masuland
> 
> [1] https://github.com/adobe/brackets
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote:
> 
>> I was going to say the exact same thing.
>> 
>> I think why people have not said this is because a lot of developers are used to
a design view being located "inside" their IDE as with Design View.
>> 
>> This is definitely not that hard to do, back in the Flex 2 days I experimented in
creating such tools in Flex.
>> 
>> Thinking about it, I guess FlashCatalyst "wasn't" in and IDE perse so, the paradigm
of an external editor has been around.
>> 
>> Seeing as Google's Android design view is decent in Eclipse, I don't see why something
couldn't be started in an IDE either.
>> 
>> The trick is starting with something SMALL and prototype, get the idea to work and
slowly build on. You know, if I was actually making some type of money from Flex right now
I would consider this project but, my spare time will be devoted to the compiler and extensions
of.
>> 
>> Now if we get some revolution going with AS -> JS compiling that is not using
the Flash API, then it's time to really start thinking about a design inspector. ;-)
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Quoting Peter Ent <pent@adobe.com>:
>> 
>>> This is a good opportunity for [someone in] the Apache Flex community to
>>> develop such a tool. Using Apache Flex, an AIR app would be able to
>>> present UI components rendered correctly, in real-time, and be able to
>>> read and write local files. If Adobe does not contribute UI tools, the
>>> community can make their own. There are many talented people here with the
>>> background to do this. Of course, time and resources are probably the
>>> biggest constraints.
>>> 
>>> Peter Ent
>>> Flex SDK Team
>>> Adobe Systems.
>>> 
>>> On 10/2/12 6:52 AM, "Michael Schmalle" <apache@teotigraphix.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Quoting Sebastian Mohr <masuland@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Nope ... I am seeing Flash Catalyst as being the representation for
>>>>> Adobe's work on the Spark-Component model, FXG and Flash Catalyst
>>>>> (formerly codenamed Thermo) with the Designer-Developer workflow
>>>>> started in 2007 [1]. For whatever reasons it took ages to finish it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> For the same reason the Spark component set isn't finished and the
>>>> same reason why Flex is now an Apache project and the same reason why
>>>> they axed design view in Flash Builder and the same reason they
>>>> renamed Flex Builder to Flash Builder.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
>>>> http://www.teotigraphix.com
>>>> http://blog.teotigraphix.com
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
>> http://www.teotigraphix.com
>> http://blog.teotigraphix.com
>> 
> 


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