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From Ashish Desai - Zootar <ashish.de...@zootar.com>
Subject Re: [jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33134) New Apache Flex website
Date Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:12:38 GMT
I do not discourage use of tables all together. However, they must be laid out and structured
correctly for SEO spiders to focus on main content. While this is complicated tables still
can be made scannable. Below are few links that can help. There are also many books on SEO
that you can go through.

http://webdesign.about.com/od/layout/a/aa111102a.htm
http://www.htmlbasictutor.ca/search-engine-html-table.htm

There is no doubt that you are doing a wonderful job, but this was just a pointer to avoid
excessive table use for layouts. What you have used is a table just for NAV and that is absolutely
OK. Even we have used tables in our prototypes if you have noticed.

HTML5 and CSS3 specs allow for CSS based column layout, just so that you could place your
important content closer to the beginning of the page and not worry about content ordering.

If we feel, SEO is not a big deal for us, we should use what is easy.

Ashish Desai
Zootar
ashish.desai@zootar.com



On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Erik de Bruin <erik@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:

> There is no CMS code in the published pages. The buildbot gathers and
> parses all files from the SVN repo and creates plain HTML from them.
> We need to work with the files in the repo to get this done. I've put
> the relevant info and a short description of the workflow in one of
> the comments on this JIRA issue.
> 
> As to tables, this was Googles first answer to my query "SEO tables":
> 
> http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/6890/are-html-tables-bad-for-seo
> 
> So, in the grander scheme of things, I think using one to get the job
> done with a minimum of fuss is acceptable. But I'm open to
> suggestions, that's what I'm here for, to learn stuff. Do you have any
> references for your statement about tables and SEO? I hadn't heard
> about that before and would like to read up on it.
> 
> EdB
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Ashish Desai - Zootar
> <ashish.desai@zootar.com> wrote:
>> I am not able to see any CMS specific code in the page. Am i missing anything?
>> 
>> Also, tables will be hard to index by search engine bots. We should use them only
if we don't care about coming high up on search results.
>> 
>> Ashish Desai
>> Zootar
>> ashish.desai@zootar.com
>> 
>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 10:12 AM, "Erik de Bruin (JIRA)" <jira@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>   [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33134?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13486889#comment-13486889
]
>>> 
>>> Erik de Bruin commented on FLEX-33134:
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> I've done some more work on the new website:
>>> 
>>> http://flex.staging.apache.org/flex/again/
>>> 
>>> I think this is the point where we get our heads together and start dividing
some of the content work...
>>> 
>>>> New Apache Flex website
>>>> -----------------------
>>>> 
>>>>               Key: FLEX-33134
>>>>               URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33134
>>>>           Project: Apache Flex
>>>>        Issue Type: Task
>>>>          Reporter: Tomasz Maciag
>>>>          Assignee: Erik de Bruin
>>>>       Attachments: apache_flex_website_psd.zip.001, apache_flex_website_psd.zip.002,
apache_flex_website_psd.zip.003, website.zip
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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> 
> 
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